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RE: SOAP and Tool Accommodation

From: Conner, Wesley M <Wesley.Conner@gs.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:01:51 -0400
Message-Id: <3D0E38416579D411803C00D0B7AF6B21069131@gsny47e.et.gs.com>
To: "'asirv@webmethods.com'" <asirv@webmethods.com>
Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org

	Thanks for the files. I've had to introduce a couple of local
adjustments. On both files, I've slid "<?xml version="1.0"?>" to the top of
the file so that IIS/IE5 will serve/browse the files as XML and to allow
XmlSpy to proceed.

	On the soap-encoding file, XmlSpy has some minor problems. When
resolving the reference to Array, the explicit namespace resolution is
tripping up XmlSpy.

    WAS: <group ref='tns:Array' ...
    ADJUSTED TO: <group ref='Array' ...

A similar problem happens a little further down the page. Same basic deal.

    WAS: <group ref='tns:Struct' ...
    ADJUSTED TO: <group ref='Struct' ...

I think that your explicit derefencing of the target namespace is correct,
but I don't claim to know XML Schemas sufficiently to say if one approach,
the other or both are strictly correct.


-----Original Message-----
From: Asir S Vedamuthu [mailto:asirv@webmethods.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:04 PM
To: Conner, Wesley M; xml-dist-app@w3.org
Subject: RE: SOAP and Tool Accommodation

Schema Defs in SOAP do not conform to April 7, 2000 specs. I manually
modified them and attached these files. Yes, XML Spy and Authority have
difficulty constructing proper QNames. I hope this helps.

All the best,

Asir S Vedamuthu
webMethods, Inc.
(Phone) 703-460-2513 (Fax) 703-460-2513 (E-mail) asirv@webmethods.com
URL: http://www.webmethods.com

-----Original Message-----
From: xml-dist-app-request@w3.org [mailto:xml-dist-app-request@w3.org]On
Behalf Of Conner, Wesley M
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:24 AM
To: 'xml-dist-app@w3.org'
Subject: SOAP and Tool Accommodation

I'm hoping to use SOAP (envelope and encoding) for a current project. An
initial challenge is to work with the tools at my disposal to author XML
schemas. Both Extensibility's "XML Authority (XA)" and Altova's "XmlSpy"
complain about the following aspects of the XML Schema for SOAP v 1.1 at

Item #1: Neither recognizes the 'default' attribute on the attribute

	<attribute name='root' default='0'>
		<simpleType base='boolean'>
			<pattern value='0|1'/>

Item #2: Neither cares for the 'minOccurs' attribute on the attribute

	<attributeGroup name='arrayAttributes'>
		<attribute ref='tns:arrayType' minOccurs='1' />
		<attribute ref='tns:offset'/>

I'm guessing that XA and XmlSpy simply don't support attribute qualification
(yet). Is it reasonable to copy the SOAP schema to a local web server and
weaken it ever so slightly by omitting these attributes? [That is, leverage
the xsi:schemaLocation attribute to reference my weaker copy.] This would
allow some forward motion although I'd obviously lose the desired conformity
checking on the affected attributes. If this isn't total heresy, are there
any suggestions on how best to affect this kind of tool accommodation (e.g.,
file naming)? Is there a better solution (e.g., better tool, better work

W. Conner
Received on Tuesday, 17 October 2000 15:02:28 UTC

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