- From: <Noah_Mendelsohn@lotus.com>
- Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:15:45 -0500
- To: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson)
- Cc: mmatsa@us.ibm.com, www-xml-schema-comments@w3.org
Henry Thompson writes:
>> The logic is as follows: min/max clearly _does_ make
>> sense on a <xs:group ref='...'/> in a model. So we
>> give precedence to that min/max, and rule out any
>> other min/max at the top levels of the referenced
>> group.
I think the implicit question is, why doesn't it makes sense to allow
min/max at both levels? I am not quick enough to re-express the exact
components requried, but I think it's basically that the combination:
<group name="x" >
<choice minOccurs="3" maxOccurs="5">
<element ref="a"/>
</choice>
</group
<group ref="x" minOccurs="8" maxOccurs="10"/>
would mean
<sequence minOccurs="8" maxOccurs="10">
<choice minOccurs="3" maxOccurs="5">
<element ref="a"/>
</choice>
</sequence>
where the outer sequence would be implicit in the repeating reference to
the group. I realize this represents a bit of invention, but it does the
correct thing, I think, in the degenerate case where only one of the group
definition or reference carries an occurrence constraint. In any case, I
find the current design to be very counterintuitive. Thanks much!
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ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson)
Sent by: www-xml-schema-comments-request@w3.org
12/02/00 01:56 PM
To: "Morris Matsa" <mmatsa@us.ibm.com>
cc: www-xml-schema-comments@w3.org, (bcc: Noah Mendelsohn/CAM/Lotus)
Subject: Re: Model Group Definition
You're right, this is a weakness in the spec., as Asir confirms: the
schema for schemas should (indeed I thought it already did) rule out
min/max on the top all/choice/sequence of a model group definition.
The schema for schemas already rules out min/max on the group
definition itself.
The logic is as follows: min/max clearly _does_ make sense on a
<xs:group ref='...'/> in a model. So we give precedence to that
min/max, and rule out any other min/max at the top levels of the
referenced group.
I'll fix the schema for schemas.
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Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of
Edinburgh
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