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Fwd: Re: more thoughts about show=embed...

From: Eve L. Maler <elm@east.sun.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:59:43 -0500
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>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:08:33 +0100
>From: Erik Wilde <netdret@dret.net>
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>To: "Eve L. Maler" <elm@East.Sun.COM>
>CC: Steve DeRose <Steven_DeRose@brown.edu>, dorchard@ca.ibm.com,
>         bent@exemplary.net, David Lowe <dbl@eng.uts.edu.au>
>Subject: Re: more thoughts about show=embed...
> > Argh.  If the starting resource were a single node, I would want
> > the entire location set described by the ending resource to be
> > embedded in that one place.  I'd be surprised at the results if
> > the embedding behavior changed when the starting resource become
> > a whole set of locations itself.
>that's a good remark. it is necessary to think about the expectations of
>users, and also the irritating change in behavior when resources change
>and therefore location sets change.
> > Also, while the pairwise correspondence makes logical sense, what
> > about when the number of locations doesn't match up?
>that was my first thought when i read the remarks about "pairwise"
>matching. and more seriously, because an xpointer addresses a location
>*set*, it is not ordered, and therefore identifying *matching* locations
>for pairwise ordering is impossible by definition...
>ok, so it sounds as if there is something to clarify. suppose i would
>like to implement xlink right now, then i would have no idea how to
>handle embed with location sets, and i would choose to handle it in any
>way i like. a different implementor could have a different idea about
>what should happen, and we would end up with non-interoperable
>implementations, where the same set of resources produced a very
>different result when viewed on both platforms.
>furthermore, the xlink processing model seems to be very brief. i can
>imagine applications where i use xslt stylesheets attached to documents
>that dynamically generate xlink content that then should be used for the
>presentation of the resource (my dictionary example would be a great
>application for this kind of xslt/xlink combination), and the same thing
>could happen with embedded resources. how should something like that be
>handled by a browser?

Eve Maler            Sun Microsystems
elm @ east.sun.com    +1 781 442 3190
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