- From: John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 08:51:49 -0400 (EDT)
- To: www-xml-blueberry-comments@w3.org
----- Forwarded message from Tim Bray ----- From xml-dev-errors@lists.xml.org Wed Jul 18 19:09:30 2001 Envelope-to: cowan@mercury.ccil.org Received: from one.elistx.com ([209.116.252.130]) by mercury.ccil.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15N0Re-0004PQ-00 for <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:09:30 -0400 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #44856) id <0GGO00B01YMOUX@eListX.com> for cowan@mercury.ccil.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ELIST-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #44856) id <0GGO00B04YMMUT@eListX.com> (original mail from tbray@textuality.com); Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #44856) id <0GGO00B01YMKUR@eListX.com> for xml-dev@elist.lists.xml.org (ORCPT xml-dev@lists.xml.org); Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #44856) id <0GGO00B01YMKUQ@eListX.com> for xml-dev@elist.lists.xml.org (ORCPT xml-dev@lists.xml.org); Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.dev.antarcti.ca (gt.antarcti.ca [209.17.183.233]) by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #44856) with ESMTP id <0GGO009DZYMJ9Q@eListX.com> for xml-dev@lists.xml.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rune.antarcti.ca (dev1.dev.antarcti.ca [10.1.1.8]) by mail.dev.antarcti.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329E510A07 for <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:59:38 -0700 From: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Subject: Closing Blueberry X-Sender: tbray@pop.intergate.ca To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010718154735.020803e0@pop.intergate.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 List-Owner: <mailto:xml-dev-help@lists.xml.org> List-Post: <mailto:xml-dev@lists.xml.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:xml-dev-request@lists.xml.org?body=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xml-dev-request@lists.xml.org?body=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev> List-Help: <http://lists.xml.org/elists/admin_email.shtml>, <mailto:xml-dev-request@lists.xml.org?body=help> xml-dev has no authority and is not part of any formal process, but if it were a W3C WG and I'd been the chair, at this point I would assert that I hear something like convergence going on. a. Seems like history's on the side of people who want to get the Unicode X where X>2 stuff into XML NAMEs one way or another. b. Seems like almost nobody is willing to go to bat very hard for NEL. There are two good ideas for how (a) might be achieved: - John Cowan has proposed a sensible-looking method for writing the XML NAME rules by reference to Unicode metadata and thus achieving decoupling from any particular version of Unicode. I didn't see anyone raising problems with Johnn's approach, and lord knows there are people here who are qualified to spot 'em if they're there. Of course to use this fully, your Blueberry declaration would have to specify which version of Unicode it belonged to. [hmm... <foo xml:unicode="3.1">...</foo>?] - James Clark proposed massively fewer restrictions on the composition of names. On the other hand, there were some pretty strong arguments against this. As for (b), unless someone is willing to make case for opening up deployed systems to pretty massive breakage in order to simplify the lives of a small and shrinking piece of the software development world... as I said, if this were a WG and I were chair I'd suggest an evident lack of consensus in favor of this change. -Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------ The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ To unsubscribe from this elist send a message with the single word "unsubscribe" in the body to: xml-dev-request@lists.xml.org ----- End of forwarded message from Tim Bray ----- -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore --Douglas Hofstadter
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