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Re: Stateful Web Services...

From: Walden Mathews <waldenm@optonline.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:13:21 -0400
To: "Mullins, Chalon" <Chalon.Mullins@schwab.com>
Cc: www-ws@w3.org
Message-id: <015a01c4be04$802b1430$d5d4a8c0@WALDENNOTEBOOK>

Chalon,

That was a conscious assumption on my part.  Here is another
one: that the "efficient" in "efficient frontier calculation" (whatever
that is) means what we all think it does, and that your design
would reflect that in intelligent use of bandwidth.

My poor assumptions aside, I do think the thread has suffered
from a lack of appreciation of 'state' vs 'conversational state', how
ever you choose to deploy those terms.  Which, as you point out,
is entirely up to you.

Best of luck,

Walden

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mullins, Chalon" <Chalon.Mullins@schwab.com>
To: "'Walden Mathews'" <waldenm@optonline.net>
Cc: <www-ws@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:59 PM
Subject: RE: Stateful Web Services...


| Doesn't that depend on the application?  If that were an efficient
frontier
| calculation, why wouldn't that be part of the conversational state?
|
| Chalon Mullins
| Technical Director, Infrastructure Strategy and Architecture
| Charles Schwab & Co., Inc.
| SF211MN-08-472
| 101 Montgomery St
| San Francisco, CA 94104
| phone:  (415) 667-1117
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Walden Mathews [mailto:waldenm@optonline.net]
| Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:57 PM
| To: Mullins, Chalon
| Cc: www-ws@w3.org
| Subject: Re: Stateful Web Services...
|
| Chalon,
|
| | <CM> Well, I agree about going "stateless," but as the dialog that
started
| | this point explained, I think we have differences over just what that
| means.
|
|
| Yes, that is usually the problem.  "Stateless" in this context usually
| means not storing conversational state on the server.  It does not imply
| that you can build server applications that need no storage!  Nor
| does it imply anything about what clients can store.
|
| > If I had to transfer all the balances and positions for my customers
each
| > time so that I could value a portfolio, I would never be able to handle
| the
| > hundreds of thousands of concurrent users we do every day.
|
| That's not conversational state you're talking about.
|
| Regards,
| Walden Mathews
|
|
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