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Re: Proposed issue; Visibility of Web services

From: Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:11:28 -0400
To: Anne Thomas Manes <anne@manes.net>
Cc: www-ws@w3.org, noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
Message-ID: <20030527141128.M31140@www.markbaker.ca>

On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 01:41:16PM -0400, Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> Mark Baker said:
> > A generic processing model is not a generic application.
> Maybe not, but that's not the point of this discussion. The point is
> visibility.

... and the role of a generic application in improving visibility.

> A SOAP intermediary has excellent visibility into SOAP messages.

I don't believe so.

One more time, from the top ... 8-)

A generic HTTP intermediary has better visibility into an HTTP
transaction than a generic SOAP intermediary has into a SOAP
transaction, because generic HTTP intermediaries are hardcoded to
understand HTTP application methods, while generic SOAP intermediaries
aren't hardcoded to know about any application methods.

Even if you believe that HTTP is just for humans and browsers, this
should be self-evident, I believe.  But I understand, first hand, that
it takes some reworking of mental models to grok.

Mark Baker.   Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.        http://www.markbaker.ca
Web architecture consulting, technical reports, evaluation & analysis
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