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RE: agenda+ WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers

From: Arthur Ryman <ryman@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:12:56 -0500
To: "David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>
Cc: "Philippe Le Hegaret" <plh@w3.org>, "www-ws-desc" <www-ws-desc@w3.org>, www-ws-desc-request@w3.org, "Yves Lafon" <ylafon@w3.org>
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Dave,

Makes sense since you dealing with elements, not components.

Arthur Ryman,
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"David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com> 
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11/24/2006 06:59 PM

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RE: agenda+ WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers






Got it.  I added similar to the wsdl 1.1 EIs but collapsing all the soap 
binding element descriptions into 1 section.
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/wsdl11elementidentifiers.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8
 
Cheers,
Dave

From: Arthur Ryman [mailto:ryman@ca.ibm.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:06 PM
To: David Orchard
Cc: Philippe Le Hegaret; www-ws-desc; www-ws-desc-request@w3.org; Yves 
Lafon
Subject: RE: agenda+ WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers


Dave, 

We defined an extension syntax and Part 2 defines the extensions for the 
new components: 

wsdl.extension(http://www.w3.org/@@@@/@@/wsdl/soap, wsoap.module(parent/
ref)) 
wsdl.extension(http://www.w3.org/@@@@/@@/wsdl/soap, wsoap.header(parent/
element declaration)) 
wsdl.extension(http://www.w3.org/@@@@/@@/wsdl/http, whttp.header(parent/
name)) 

Arthur Ryman,
IBM Software Group, Rational Division

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"David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com> 
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there was a request to show an extension in the wsdl 1.1 eis, and I 
realized that I don't think that wsdl 2.0 defines designators for the soap 
or http bindings, leaving the xpointer scheme for them undefined.  I guess 
that means that wsdl 1.1 eis must either make the same decision or define 
it's own extra identifiers.   
  
Was the reason for leaving off the soap and http identifers one of 80/20? 
Or am I missing something? 
  
Cheers, 
Dave 

From: Arthur Ryman [mailto:ryman@ca.ibm.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:50 AM
To: David Orchard
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Subject: RE: agenda+ WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers


David, 

So do you think it is useful to also (the extra 1%) specify the canonical 
form of the fragids to simplify comparison? 

Arthur Ryman,
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"David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com> 
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11/23/2006 09:21 PM 


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It is eerily familiar because it is 99% a cut and paste from wsdl 2.0 :-) 
 
Dave 

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Subject: Re: agenda+ WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers


[1] looks eerily familiar. 

We added some text on a canomical form. I suggest they do the same. 

Arthur Ryman,
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Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org> 
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11/16/2006 05:33 AM 


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The Web Services Policy Working Group is currently working on a Working
Group Note for WSDL 1.1 Element Identifiers [1]. Those identifiers would
then be used in the external policy attachment mechanism [2] as WSDL 1.1
domain expressions.


1. Would the WSDL WG object to the publication of the document by the WS
Policy WG?

2. Would the WSDL WG be interested in reviewing the document and provide
feedback to the WS Policy WG?

Regards,

Philippe

[1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/wsdl11elementidentifiers.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8

[2]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-ws-policy-attach-20061102/#ExternalPolicyAttachment
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