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Agenda, 17 February 2004 WS Desc telcon

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:57 -0800
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0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Feb/0024.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is one of:
      Bijan Parsia, Sanjiva Weerawarana, Jacek Kopecky,
      Prasad Yendluri, Kevin Liu, Youenn Fablet, 
      Glen Daniels, Roberto Chinnici, Allen Brookes, Adi Sakala

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2.  Approval of minutes:
  - Feb 10 [.1]

[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/att-0042/2005021
0-ws-desc-minutes.html

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3.  Review of Action items [.1].  Editorial actions [.2].

?         2004-04-01: Marsh will get schema tf going.
?         2004-09-02: Bijan to create stylesheet to generate a
                      table of components and properties.
?         2004-09-16: Editors to move App C to RDF Mapping spec, 
                      except the frag-id which will move 
                      within media-type reg appendix.
?         2004-09-16: Editors to fix paragraph 6-9 of section 
                      2.1.1 moved into 2.1.2
                      which talks about the syntax.
?         2004-10-14: Editors to add a statement like: 
                      The Style property may constrain both 
                      input and output, however a particular 
                      style may constrain in only one 
                      direction. In Section 2.4.1.1 of Part 1.
                      (subsumed by LC21 resolution?) 
?         2004-11-09: DaveO to work on text for option 
                      3 (redefining conformance in terms 
                      of building the component model) 
                      (LC5f)
?         2004-11-09: DaveO will recast the @compatibleWith 
                      proposal using an extension namespace. 
                      (LC54)
?         2004-11-10: Sanjiva to write the rationale for 
                      rejecting LC75a
?         2004-11-10: Glen will post an e-mail describing 
                      the compromise proposal on formal objections.
?         2004-11-10: Editor remove ambiguity if it exists
?         2004-11-10: Sanjiva will write up this proposal 
                      and email it to the list as a response 
                      to the objection.
?         2004-11-11: Anish to propose additions to the 
                      test suite for the purpose of 
                      interoperability testing.
?         2004-11-11: Editors of part 2 and 3 to add text 
                      about WSDLMEP and SOAP mep mapping that 
                      points to section 2.3 of part 3 (LC48b) 
?         2004-11-18: Mini-task force to propose one or two 
                      proposals for the group for LC5f.
?         2004-12-03: Glen and Asir to help craft the specfic text 
                      for the editors.
?         2004-12-03: Glen to send example on feature stuff for primer
?         2004-12-16: Part 3 Editors to update the HTTP binding with 
                      one of the above versions of text
?         2005-01-06: MTD Editors to add note saying content-type
                      is not sufficient, information to be 
                      provided via other mechanism, for 
                      example xsi:type"
?         2005-01-06: MTD editors implement proposal 2 for issue 
                      260.
?         2005-01-06: Umit? to respond to Larry, "not dynamic, 
                      other solutions equally bad, not 
                      recommendation track, if problems
                      happy to consider those"
?         2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to 
                      implement issue 261 resolution
?         2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to 
                      implement issue 262 resolution
?         2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to 
                      implement 262 and 273
?         2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to 
                      incorporate the text at 2004Dec/0022.html
?         2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to 
                      resolve 275 editorially 
?         2005-01-13: Umit to reply to issuer 270
?         2005-01-13: Umit to respond to Ian Hickson 
                      about issue 271
?         2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to call out the difference 
                      between WSDL 1.1 and 2.0 in respect to 
                      single interface per service, and 
                      indicate alternatives
?         2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to rewrite ONMR as Best practice.
DONE [.4] 2005-01-19: Hugo to write a proposal for adding 
                      an optional Action attribute in line 
                      with WS Addressing (LC84b)
?         2005-01-19: Arthur and Asir to look for more edge cases 
                      ref LC20 and LC27.
?         2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to add the intersection 
                      rule for f&p composition.
?         2005-01-20: Asir to think about mU and possibly 
                      propose some clarification text
?         2005-01-20: Arthur to come up with primer text 
                      to show fault reuse and fault code.
DONE      2005-02-03: Marsh make Jan 0008 issue LC103 and close it.
?         2005-02-03: Members who have recently raised issues 
                      should check that these were reflected in 
                      the issues list.
?         2005-02-03: Marsh to find schemaLocation supporting 
                      material for Arthur.
DONE      2005-02-03: Marsh to add RDF mapping to agenda, try 
                      to recruit Jacek.
?         2005-02-03: Asir to work with primer eds on SOAP 1.1
                      example.
?         2005-02-03: Part 1 editors to incorporate text from 
                      Jan/0026 and Feb/0006.
DONE [.3] 2005-02-10: Arthur to add non-normative ref to WS-Addr
                      spec
?         2005-02-10: Asir to say which component names need discussion
?         2005-02-10: DBooth to mail Arthur change to wording on media 
                      type registration, Arthur to incorporate.
?         2005-02-10: JMarsh to ask Henry to respond about media type 
                      issues with examples
?         2005-02-10: Marsh to consider a cutoff for LC issues.
DONE      2005-02-10: Marsh to move 106 up on the agenda.
DONE      2005-02-10: Marsh to schedule discussion of LC70 along 
                      with LC5f.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/actions.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Feb/0022.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0035.html

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4.  Administrivia
  a. Mar 3,4 Boston [.1]
  b. Upcoming FTF dates:
   - mid/late April, West Coast?
   - May 30 Berlin?

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TP2005/

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5. RDF Mapping
 - Check status and expected progress.
 - What would we like a First Public WG to look like?

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6. Primer [.1]
 - DBooth and Kevin solicit help for Advanced Topics section [.2]
 - Volunteers for the following sections:
   + Section 7.2 Features and Properties (Glen)
   + Section 7.3 Import mechanism and authoring style (Arthur)
   + Section 7.4 Multiple Logical WSDL Documents Describing the 
                 Same Service (David)
   + Section 7.5 Versioning and Service Equivalency (Paul)
   + Section 7.6 MTOM Support (Marsh)
   + Section 7.8 Operation Style and RPC (Umit)
   + Section 7.11 Service References (Arthur)
   + Section 7.12 XML Schema Examples  (Paul)
   + Section 7.13 Multiple In-Line Schemas (Arthur)
   + Section 7.14 The schemaLocation Attribute (Arthur)
 - Sections marked as "at risk" if no volunteer can be found:
   + Section 7.7 Security Considerations
   + Section 7.15 Mapping to RDF and Semantic Web

[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-primer.ht
ml
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0004.html

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7.  Media Type Description issues [.1]
 a. Issue 272 Architectural issues [.2]
    - Awaiting more examples from Henry.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#detailList
[.2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-media-types/2004Nov/0011.h
tml

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8.  Last Call Issues [.1].  Comments list [.2]
  - LC107: Consistency of WSDL Component property names [.3]
  - LC108: Part 3, SOAP Binding - Editorial Issues [.4]
  - LC109: Multiple input and output elements for an operation [.5]
  - LC110: WSDL 2.0 Part3, Sec. 3.4 [.6]
  - LC111: HTTP Error code for faults (part3, sec 3.7) [.7]
  - Propose referring LC108, LC109 to editors as editorial.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC107
[.4] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC108
[.5] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC109
[.6] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC110
[.7] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC111

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9.  Media Type Registration [.1]
  - Editorial work needed [.2]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0015.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0016.html

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10. Component model changes
  - LC104: Proposed Changes to the Interface Component, Features 
           and Properties [.1]
    - Plan to hold vote on Arthur's proposal vs. status quo.
  - LC105: Proposal for Simplifications to the Component Model [.2]
    - Arthur's modification to the LC105 proposal [.3]
    - Need to decide whether to allow "property" extensions at the 
      top level.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0060.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0056.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0066.html

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11. Issue LC106: Revisit LC21 resolution [.1]
  - LC21: Multipart Style and {direction}=out [.2]
  
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC106
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC21

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12. Issue LC70: Pluggability of Schema Languages in WSDL [.1]
  - Proposal A: "mustUnderstand" the schema language.
  - Proposal B: Drop DTD/Relax bindings, tighten the coupling with 
                XML Schema.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC70

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13. Issue LC5f: QA Review on WSDL 2.0 Part 1, intro and conformance
                issues (f) [.1]
  - Roberto's proposal [.2]
  - No final resolution from FTF, AIs to DBooth/Roberto and DaveO 
    to write up competing proposals
  - DBooth/Roberto's proposal [.3]
  - Mini-TF to work on a single proposal (stalled out).  Want to see
    whether we're still waiting for an alternative proposal before
    deciding the issue.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC5f
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Oct/0027.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0099.html

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14. Issue 76d: First class support for headers [.1]
  - DaveO's v1.2 Headers proposal from Jan FTF. [.2]
  - Asir's proposal for a first-class header support, elements [.3]
  - Asir's proposal for a first-class header support, types [.4]
  - Asir's proposal for SOAP-specific header support [.5]
  - subissue a: mandatory mustUnderstand [.6]
  - subissue b: MUST if possible [.6] (Editorial?)
  - subissue c: Use Schema for versioning, not SOAP headers [.6]
  - subissue d: Wrapper type can't be validated[.6]
  - subissue e: mismatched feature/modules [.7]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC76d
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0040.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/att-0019/first-c
lass-headers-A.html
[.4]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/att-0019/first-c
lass-headers-B.html
[.5]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/att-0094/soap-he
ader-blocks.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0009.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0018.html

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15. Issue LC84b:  [.1]
  - Hugo's draft proposal [.2]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC84b
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0035.html

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16. Issue LC74: Idle question [.1]
  - Can WSDL 2.0 import WSDL 1.0?
  - Note that the resolution to LC5e [.2] defines WSDL Document as 
    WSDL 2.0 namespace.
  - Options:
    a) No.  Spec (with LC5e resolution) is clear enough.
    b) No.  Specifically note that i*ing 1.1 docs is not supported.
    c) Yes.  Change spec to define that this is possible, though
       how to turn a WSDL 1.1 doc into WSDL 2.0 components is not
       defined.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC74
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC5e
 
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17. Issue LC54: WSDL Last Call issue
  - Awaiting DaveO's further action to cast @compatibleWith as an
    extension

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC54

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18. Issue LC75w: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (w) [.1]
  - Relax requirement that include href must be dereferencable.

 [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75w

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19. Other issues if time allows (ha!)
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