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Re: Part 1: Component reference vs. QName

From: Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanjiva@watson.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:54:19 +0600
Message-ID: <04c001c46d54$d70ed350$2e694109@LANKABOOK>
To: "Roberto Chinnici" <Roberto.Chinnici@Sun.COM>, "Asir Vedamuthu" <asirv@webmethods.com>
Cc: <paul.downey@bt.com>, <www-ws-desc@w3.org>

Didn't you forget our wonderful inheritance model???

Sanjiva.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roberto Chinnici" <Roberto.Chinnici@Sun.COM>
To: "Asir Vedamuthu" <asirv@webmethods.com>
Cc: <paul.downey@bt.com>; <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: Part 1: Component reference vs. QName


>
> Asir,
>
> I was in the process of writing a thorough explanation of why the spec
> is the way it is, but I think you ran into a real issue.
>
> At some point we allowed "generic" binding components (i.e. those with
> an unspecified {interface} property) to contain Binding Fault and
> Binding Operation components, but that functionality is gone (see third
> paragraph of section 2.9.1). The use of QNames to refer to Interface
> Fault/Operation(s) from in Binding Fault/Operation(s) is a vestige of
> those days.
>
> As things stand now, this use of QNames is inconsistent with the rest
> of the specification, so I'd be in favor of using actual components
> instead.
>
> Unless I'm missing something, of course!
>
> Roberto
>
>
> Asir Vedamuthu wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> >
> >>There was some discussion of this following the proposal to
> >>hoist faults:
> >>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0062.html
> >
> >
> > Thank you. I read this thread. My question is not at the XML
representation
> > level but, at the -component- level. Let me quote from part 1,
> >
> > "{fault reference} REQUIRED. A wsdls:QName as defined by 2.15.5 QName
Type
> > which refers to an Interface Fault component in the {faults} property of
the
> > Interface component identified by the {interface} property of the parent
> > Binding component. This is the Interface Fault component for which
binding
> > information is being specified." [1]
> >
> > Let me re-state my question. {fault reference} property appears to be a
> > component reference. Per part 1, {fault reference} property is a
> > wsdls:QName.  Thus, the following two properties stand out,
> >
> > (a) Binding Fault Component.{fault reference}
> > (b) Binding Operation Component.{operation reference}
> >
> > Their values are of type wsdls:QName instead of Interface
Fault/Operation
> > component. Is that intentional?
> >
> > [1]
> >
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.html?content-
> > type=text/html%3B0charset=utf-8#Binding_Fault_details
> >
> > Asir
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: paul.downey@bt.com [mailto:paul.downey@bt.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:41 AM
> > To: asirv@webmethods.com; www-ws-desc@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: Part 1: Component reference vs. QName
> >
> >
> > Asir,
> >
> > AIUI fault and operations are identified using ncnames, but referenced
> > using qnames, since the same fault name may exist in one or more
interface.
> >
> > There was some discussion of this following the proposal to hoist
faults:
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2004Jan/0062.html
> >
> > HTH
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org]On
> > Behalf Of Asir Vedamuthu
> > Sent: 15 July 2004 13:39
> > To: www-ws-desc@w3.org
> > Subject: Part 1: Component reference vs. QName
> >
> >
> >
> > In part 1 component model, the following properties (see below) appear
to be
> > component references but, they are described as QNames. Is that
intentional?
> >
> > - Binding Fault Component.{fault reference} [1]
> > - Binding Operation Component.{operation reference} [2]
> >
> > [1]
> >
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.html?content-
> > type=text/html%3B0charset=utf-8#Binding_Fault_details
> >
> > [2]
> >
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.html?content-
> > type=text/html%3B0charset=utf-8#Binding_Operation_details
> >
> > Regards,
> > Asir S Vedamuthu
> > asirv at webmethods dot com
> > http://www.webmethods.com/
Received on Monday, 19 July 2004 01:55:12 GMT

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