RE: Version attribute for WSDL

I'm interested in the version attribute for identifying versions within
"compatible" definitions.  I would like to have our spec say explicitly
that.  I am strongly strongly opposed to using a version attribute for
identifying different incompatible versions.  That's what namespaces and
URIs are for.

Some off-the-cuff suggestions for the wording:

"The version attribute identifies a particular version of the definitions,
that is compatible with all other versions with the same targetnamespace.
It SHOULD not be used to identify incompatible definition versions."

Cheers,
Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of paul.downey@bt.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:02 AM
> To: vbp@hp.com; tomj@macromedia.com; www-ws-desc@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Version attribute for WSDL
> 
> 
> 
> I believe the version value is useful information for when the 
> interface has been compatibly changed within the same namespace.
> 
> +1 Tom's proposal, i can't see any harm and it could be useful
> as a building block for a mechanism for relating an interface 
> version to other versions, akin to the 'previous', 'this' and 
> 'latest' version URLs on W3C publications.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Vambenepe, William N
> Sent: 12 February 2004 16:53
> To: Tom Jordahl; www-ws-desc@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Version attribute for WSDL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks Tom for the proposal. I could live with this attribute on
> <definitions> but I really don't like it on <interface>. As Glen
> eloquently explained at the F2F, a different interface should use a
> different QName. What does it mean for a binding to reference an
> interface if there are dozens of "versions" of this interface. Can I
> have a binding for only a certain version of an interface? I know we
> don't have to answer this since we "define no semantic" but 
> that doesn't
> make the problem go away.
> 
> William
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org 
> > [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Tom Jordahl
> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 6:13 AM
> > To: 'www-ws-desc@w3.org'
> > Subject: Version attribute for WSDL
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In fulfillment of my action item received at the January F2F, 
> > here is a
> > proposal to add a version attribute to WSDL to aid in the 
> > versioning of WSDL
> > documents and interfaces.
> > 
> > I propose that an attribute with the name "version" be added to the
> > <definitions> element of WSDL.  This attribute is for user 
> > convenience, and
> > the specification would define no semantics for it, 
> > specifically the value
> > of this attribute would NOT be included in the infoset.  
> > However, it is
> > expected that WSDL authors and consumers can use this 
> attribute, when
> > present, to differentiate between different revisions of a 
> > WSDL document.
> > 
> > Example:
> > 
> > <definitions version="1" targetNamespace=http://sample.org/>
> > ...
> > </definitions>
> > 
> > This proposal is modeled after the version attribute of XML 
> > Schema, see
> > section 3.15.2 in Part 1 of the XML Schema specification:
> >   http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-1/#Schemas
> > 
> > In our specification, section 2.1.2 would be updated to 
> > include the new
> > attribute:
> > 
> > 2.1.2 XML Representation of Definitions Component
> > 
> > <definitions
> >       targetNamespace="xs:anyURI" 
> >       version = "xs:token"? >
> >   <documentation />?
> >   [ <import /> | <include /> ]*
> >   <types />?
> >   [ <interface /> | <binding /> | <service /> ]*
> > </definitions>
> > 
> > 
> > Additionally, I propose that a similar version attribute be 
> > added to the
> > <interface> element of WSDL. This attribute would mirror the 
> > definitions
> > attribute.  Again, this would be for user convenience, and 
> > the specification
> > would define no semantics for it, specifically the value of 
> > this attribute
> > would NOT be included in the infoset.  WSDL authors and 
> > consumers could use
> > this attribute, when present, to differentiate between 
> > different revisions
> > of an interface.  In particular, this would enable a consumer of the
> > document to know explicitly when an interface they are using 
> > has changed.
> > 
> > Example:
> > <definitions>
> >   <interface name="myInterface" version="alpha17">
> >     ...
> >   </interface>
> > </definitions>
> > 
> > 
> > 2.2.2 XML Representation of Interface Component
> > <definitions>
> >   <interface
> >         name="xs:NCName" 
> >         extends="list of xs:QName"?
> >         styleDefault="xs:anyURI"? 
> >         version = "xs:token"? >
> >     <documentation />?
> >     [ <operation /> | <feature /> | <property /> ]*
> >   </interface>
> > </definitions>
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Tom Jordahl
> > Macromedia Server Development
> > 
> > 
> 
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