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Agenda, 2 October 2003 WS Desc telcon

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:12:37 -0700
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0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0035.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
      Sandeep Kumar, (fallbacks: Kevin Liu, Sanjiva Weerawarana,
      Youenn Fablet, Jean-Jacques Moreau, Erik Ackerman,
      Igor Sedukhin, Ingo Melzer, Lily Liu, Steve Lind)

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2.  Approval of minutes:
  - Sept 18th telcon [.1].
  - Sept 22, 23, 24 (corrected) FTF [.2, .3, .4] Summary [.5]

[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/att-0177/minutes
-03-09-18.htm
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0218.html 
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0219.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0035.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0221.html

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3.  Review of Action items [.1].
?         2003-07-31: Philippe to make a proposal for fixing the 
                      HTTP binding.
DONE [.5] 2003-09-04: Jacek to review Appendix E in light of message
                      removal.
?         2003-09-11: Philippe to write a response to Mark Baker
                      proposing a property solution to HTTP verbs 
                      and ask whether this satisfies his request.
DONE [.2] 2003-09-18: Jonathan to put 1.2/2.0 item on FTF agenda.
DONE [.4] 2003-09-18: Dbooth to ping amy on whether she is satisfied 
                      that the current patterns draft adequately 
                      permits multicast.
DONE [.2] 2003-09-18: Jonathan to put #89 on FTF agenda.
?         2003-09-18: Philippe, Marsh to review the QA operational
                      guidelines.
DONE [.3] 2003-09-22: Sanjiva to clarify wording on op style to say 
                      that use of uri is assertion on part of author 
                      and if the schema doesn't match then it is an 
                      error.
?         2003-09-22: Potential editors for media-type schema 
                      annotation to apply to Chair.
?         2003-09-23: Philippe to recommend the wsdl 2.0 name to 
                      Director.
?         2003-09-23: Roberto, Glen: provide a counterproposal to 
                      the current proposal.
?         2003-09-23: ATF to describe for these style uri for 
                      attributes.
?         2003-09-23: Core editors to include those rules in the 
                      draft.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions 
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0140.html
[.3]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12.html#RPCS
tyle
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0137.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html

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4.  Administrivia
  a. Upcoming FTFs
     - November 3-5, San Francisco (Fujitsu)
     - January, Toronto or Boston
     - March, March 1-2 or 4-5, Cannes-Mandelieu, France.
  b. Publication plan.
  c. Chair for next two telcons (Regrets from Jonathan).
  d. Editor for media-type schema annotation spec.

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5.  Task Force Status.
 a. Properties and Features (dormant)
 b. Patterns (dormant)
 c. Attributes
 d. QA & Testing
  - Response to comments on QA Spec Guidelines [.2]
  - Implement QA Operational guidelines? [.3]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0074.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Sep/0023.html

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6.  New Issues.  Merged issues list [.1].
  - Layered message exchange patterns defs (Youenn) [.2]
  - How are features labeled as accepted or required? (Jeffrey) [.3]
  - Bulk Load (Mark Baker) [.4]
  - Remove message-triggers-fault rule? (Sanjiva) [.5]
  - wsdlLocation copy schema text? (Sanjiva) [.6]
  - is the uniquness constraint sufficient? (Sanjiva) [.7]

[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy
     (Note that [.1] redirects to
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html)
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0176.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0174.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0224.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0209.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0191.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0146.html

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7.  Faults.
  - Fault refs pointing to more than one message [.1]
  - Proposal for faults [.2]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0213.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0250.html

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8.  Patterns.  
  a. Remove multis? [.1]  Add new ones? [.2]
  b. Pattern description precludes Multi-cast? [.3]
    - Amy suggests changing "broadcast" to "multicast" [.4]
  c. Merge Part 2 back into Part 1? [.5]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0230.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0249.html 
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0063.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0150.html 
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0126.html

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9.  Proposal for improving <documentation> [.1]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0130.html

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10. Binding message references in the component model [19, 20]

 [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0077.html
 [20] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x89

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11. Appendix E cleanup [.1]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0136.html

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[Remaining items awaiting actions or proposals.]
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12. Endpoint references
    - Proposal from Arthur/Umit [.1]
    - Awaiting simplified proposal from Roberto/Glen

[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Sep/att-0071/ws-ref-
present-1.0.zip

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13. Pattern inference [.1]
    (optional @pattern, optional @messageReference):
  - Tabled decision on optional @pattern to future telcon.
  - Tabled decision on optional @messageReference to a future telcon.
  - Sanjiva proposes dropping redundant {direction} property from 
      the component model [.2]
  - messageReference attribute is optional (inconsistent) [.3]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0172.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0210.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0127.html

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14. Optional operation/@name [.1]
    Tabled decision to a future telcon. 

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0178.html

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15. Issue #88 [.1] Rename "operation" to "messageExchange" (again!?).
    Deferred while thread is running [.2]

[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x88
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Sep/0024.html

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16. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
  - Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [.2]
    Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed 
    attribute.  Awaiting more guidance text on properties and 
    features from Glen.
  - Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.3].
    Awaiting analysis by Jonathan.

[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x2
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html

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17. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
  - Jacek's synthesis [.5].
  - Awaiting description from Philippe showing how properties or
    extensions can be used to annotate the WSDL with RESTful 
    properties.  Ask Mark for a definitive list of those properties 
    so we can consider how to associate them with property URIs or 
    namespaces.

[.1] http://tinyurl.com/mwuy#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0095.html

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18. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
    Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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