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RE: Problem with "Fault Replaces Message" rule

From: <paul.downey@bt.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 17:42:30 +0100
Message-ID: <2B7789AAED12954AAD214AEAC13ACCEF05E2006C@i2km02-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net>
To: <alewis@tibco.com>, <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
Cc: <dbooth@w3.org>, <www-ws-desc@w3.org>

yes, i now wish i'd just 'generated' that suggestion and not 'sent' it :-)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Amelia A. Lewis [mailto:alewis@tibco.com]
Sent: 09 October 2003 16:54
To: Martin Gudgin
Cc: Downey,PS,Paul,XSJ67A C; dbooth@w3.org; www-ws-desc@w3.org
Subject: Re: Problem with "Fault Replaces Message" rule


Nice point.  We do need to clarify that, *if* the fault message is
generated, and *if* it is to be sent, then the *target node* to which it
is sent MUST (rfc2119) be the same target node that the message it
replaces would otherwise be sent to.

It looks as though the language of the rulesets needs some careful
review.

Amy!
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 08:48:29 -0700
Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com> wrote:

> In order to mitigate denial of service attacks one does not want to
> REQUIRE that fault messages be sent at all. SOAP was very careful to
> say'generate a fault' rather than 'send a fault message'
> 
> Gudge
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org 
> > [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of paul.downey@bt.com
> > Sent: 09 October 2003 15:42
> > To: dbooth@w3.org; www-ws-desc@w3.org
> > Cc: alewis@tibco.com
> > Subject: RE: Problem with "Fault Replaces Message" rule
> > 
> > 
> > How about:
> > 
> >   "The fault message MUST be *sent* to the same target node 
> > as the message it replaces." 
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Booth [mailto:dbooth@w3.org]
> > Sent: 09 October 2003 07:47
> > To: WS Description List
> > Cc: Amelia A. Lewis
> > Subject: Problem with "Fault Replaces Message" rule
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I think there is a problem with the "Fault Replaces Message" 
> > rule[1] in that it *requires* the fault to be sent, which may 
> > not always be possible when something has gone wrong.
> > 
> > 1. http://tinyurl.com/qa43 , which forwards to 
> > http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12
> > -patterns.html#fault-replacement
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > David Booth
> > W3C Fellow / Hewlett-Packard
> > Telephone: +1.617.253.1273
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 


-- 
Amelia A. Lewis
Architect, TIBCO/Extensibility, Inc.
alewis@tibco.com
Received on Thursday, 9 October 2003 12:42:32 GMT

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