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RE: Agenda, 17 July 2003 WS Desc telcon

From: Jeffrey Schlimmer <jeffsch@windows.microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:06:53 -0700
Message-ID: <DDE1793D7266AD488BB4F5E8D38EACB801D485A0@WIN-MSG-10.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com>
To: "Christopher B Ferris" <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>, "Jonathan Marsh" <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Cc: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sanjiva@watson.ibm.com>, <www-ws-desc@w3.org>, <www-ws-desc-request@w3.org>

An informal task force has been trying to come to a consensus on an
approach re: programming model hints. I do not believe anything has been
posted to the list yet.

--Jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org]
On
> Behalf Of Christopher B Ferris
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:52 AM
> To: Jonathan Marsh
> Cc: Sanjiva Weerawarana; www-ws-desc@w3.org;
www-ws-desc-request@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Agenda, 17 July 2003 WS Desc telcon
> 
> 
> I don't understand, Sanjiva has made a proposal on the list. To date,
I
> have seen
> no mention of "programmng hints" in any of the (admittedly limited)
> discussion
> around his proposal.
> 
> What is is that you mean by this?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Christopher Ferris
> STSM, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
> email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
> phone: +1 508 234 3624
> 
> www-ws-desc-request@w3.org wrote on 07/17/2003 10:56:04 AM:
> 
> >
> > Removing message will remain in flux until we see a proposal for
adding
> > "programming hints".
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:sanjiva@watson.ibm.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:02 AM
> > > To: Jonathan Marsh; www-ws-desc@w3.org
> > > Subject: Re: Agenda, 17 July 2003 WS Desc telcon
> > >
> > > Hi Jonathan,
> > >
> > > Is there any chance of moving the <message> discussion much
> > > higher on the agenda today?
> > >
> > > I think it fell off the agenda last week (I had to drop off
> > > early) and since the single interface thing is before that
> > > I fear that we may never get to it. Same concern for the
> > > binding changes .. we seem to be stuck on one little (IMO)
> > > point and unable to make progress on other things. To me,
> > > without committing to what we're doing or not doing to
> > > <message> all the binding stuff is in total flux.
> > >
> > > Sanjiva.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jonathan Marsh" <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
> > > To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:13 AM
> > > Subject: Agenda, 17 July 2003 WS Desc telcon
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
> > > >
> > > > See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents
and
> > other
> > > > information, and the private page [.3] for administrative
matters.
> > > >
> > > > If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG
> > list
> > > > before the start of the telcon.
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Jul/0023.html
> > > > [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
> > > > [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Agenda
> > > >
> > > > 1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
> > > >       Don Mullen (fallbacks: Adi Sakala, Sandeep Kumar,
> > > >       Prasad Yendluri, Dietmar Gaertner, Jerry Thrasher,
> > > >       Allen Brooks, Glen Daniels)
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 2.  Approval of minutes:
> > > >   - July 10 telcon [.1].  Alan Davies sent belated regrets.
> > Jonathan
> > > >     asked for two AIs to be recorded [.2].
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0052.html
> > > > [.1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0054.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 3.  Review of Action items [.1].
> > > > ?         2003-03-13: Don will write a proposal for annotating
> > schema
> > > >                       with part information.
> > > > ?         2003-03-27: Philippe write up a proposal for embedding
> > binary
> > > >                       data types in schema
> > > > ?         2003-05-13: DaveO to send a motivating example for
R131.
> > > > ?         2003-05-13: Jeffsch, Sanjiva, Glen, Umit, JJM to come
up
> > with
> > > >                       a proposal to get rid with the message
> > construct,
> > > >                       and add programming hints.
> > > > ?         2003-06-12: Jacek to synthesize the different
approaches
> > > >                       to solving issue 64.
> > > > DONE [.2] 2003-07-03: Arthur to figure out which validation mode
our
> > > >                       schema should specify on xs:any.
> > > > ?         2003-07-10: DBooth to reconcile his terminology with
that
> > > >                       in the requirements doc.
> > > > DONE [.3] 2003-07-10: Jonathan to send a summary of the
> > @serviceGroup
> > > >                       idea to the list.
> > > >
> > > > [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
> > > > [.2]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0068.html
> > > > [.3]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0055.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 4.  Administrivia
> > > >   a. July FTF logistics [.1], registration [.2]
> > > >   b. Sept FTF logistics [.3] (need registration page)
> > > >
> > > > [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fJulyLogistics.htm
> > > > [.2]
> > > >
> >
http://cgi.w3.org/Register/selectUser.pl?_w3c_meetingName=WSAWG_WSDWG_20
> > > > 0307
> > > > [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/arch/3/07/f2fSeptLogistics.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 5.  Task Force Status.
> > > >  a. Properties and Features (dormant)
> > > >  b. Patterns
> > > >  c. Attributes
> > > >  d. QA & Testing
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 6.  New Issues.  Merged issues list [.1].
> > > >   - none
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > > >
> >
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 7.  Open content model - validate "strict" [.1].
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0068.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 8.  Polishing off single service per interface
> > > >     Terminology [.1]  Diagram [.2, .3]
> > > >     Alternatives: @targetResource
> > > >                   @serviceGroup [.5]
> > > >
> > > >   - Naming the service resource [.4]
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0018.html
> > > > [.2]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0064.html
> > > > [.3]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0019.html
> > > > [.4]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0008.html
> > > > [.5]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0055.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 9.  Binding enhancements
> > > >     Sanjiva proposes [.1] to:
> > > >       1) Drop @interface from binding, since now in service.
> > > >       2) Allow inlining interface-wide binding within a port and
> > > >          making binding optional.
> > > >       3) Define default binding (SOAP doc/lit).
> > > >       4) Dealing with operation specific SOAPActions.
> > > >     Kevin proposes to [.2]:
> > > >       1) Allow reuse of parts of bindings through a
BindingDetails
> > > >          element and corresponding references.
> > > >     Consolidated proposal [.3]
> > > >     Amy's feedback [.4]
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0046.html
> > > > [.2]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html
> > > > [.3]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0017.html
> > > > [.4]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0051.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 10. Removing message.
> > > >     Investigating idea to cleanly separate interop at the
message
> > > >     format level from interop at the programming model level.
> > Proposal
> > > >     from Sanjiva [.1]
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0025.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 11. R085 Describing endpoint references.  [.1]
> > > >   - General agreement to add such capability to WSDL, but
> > > >     not agreement on the precise form of the annotations and
> > > >     where in the WSDL they should reside. Proposal
> > > >     from Umit [.3], response from Arthur [.4].
> > > >   - Related issue (?) dynamic discovery of a service [.2].
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > > >
> >
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/att-0088/R085-20
> > > > 03-04-22.html
> > > > [.2]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0004.html
> > > > [.3]
> > > >
> >
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/att-0024/umit_pr
> > > > oposal.html__charset_ISO-8859-1
> > > > [.4]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0142.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 12. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3,
.4]
> > > >
> > > > [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x64
> > > > [.2]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
> > > > [.3]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
> > > > [.4]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 13. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2
[.1].
> > > >   - Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs.
[.2]
> > > >     Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed
> > > >     attribute.
> > > >   - Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in
WSDL
> > [.3].
> > > >
> > > > [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2
> > > > [.2]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
> > > > [.3]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 14. Moving MIME Type Information to the Interface [.1]
> > > >     Awaiting proposal from Philippe.
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0028.html
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 15. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
> > > >     Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
> > > >
> > > > [.1]
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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