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Re: Agenda, 17 July 2003 WS Desc telcon

From: Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanjiva@watson.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:01:44 +0600
Message-ID: <066c01c34c42$0cf80840$02c8a8c0@lankabook2>
To: "Jonathan Marsh" <jmarsh@microsoft.com>, <www-ws-desc@w3.org>

Hi Jonathan,

Is there any chance of moving the <message> discussion much 
higher on the agenda today? 

I think it fell off the agenda last week (I had to drop off
early) and since the single interface thing is before that
I fear that we may never get to it. Same concern for the 
binding changes .. we seem to be stuck on one little (IMO)
point and unable to make progress on other things. To me,
without committing to what we're doing or not doing to 
<message> all the binding stuff is in total flux. 

Sanjiva.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan Marsh" <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Agenda, 17 July 2003 WS Desc telcon


> 
> 0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
> 
> See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
> information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
> 
> If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
> before the start of the telcon.
> 
> [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Jul/0023.html
> [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
> [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Agenda
> 
> 1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
>       Don Mullen (fallbacks: Adi Sakala, Sandeep Kumar, 
>       Prasad Yendluri, Dietmar Gaertner, Jerry Thrasher, 
>       Allen Brooks, Glen Daniels)
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2.  Approval of minutes:
>   - July 10 telcon [.1].  Alan Davies sent belated regrets.  Jonathan
>     asked for two AIs to be recorded [.2].
> 
> [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0052.html
> [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0054.html
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 3.  Review of Action items [.1].
> ?         2003-03-13: Don will write a proposal for annotating schema
>                       with part information.
> ?         2003-03-27: Philippe write up a proposal for embedding binary
>                       data types in schema
> ?         2003-05-13: DaveO to send a motivating example for R131.
> ?         2003-05-13: Jeffsch, Sanjiva, Glen, Umit, JJM to come up with
>                       a proposal to get rid with the message construct,
>                       and add programming hints.
> ?         2003-06-12: Jacek to synthesize the different approaches 
>                       to solving issue 64.
> DONE [.2] 2003-07-03: Arthur to figure out which validation mode our
>                       schema should specify on xs:any.
> ?         2003-07-10: DBooth to reconcile his terminology with that
>                       in the requirements doc.
> DONE [.3] 2003-07-10: Jonathan to send a summary of the @serviceGroup
>                       idea to the list.
> 
> [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
> [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0068.html
> [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0055.html
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 4.  Administrivia
>   a. July FTF logistics [.1], registration [.2]
>   b. Sept FTF logistics [.3] (need registration page)
> 
> [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fJulyLogistics.htm
> [.2]
> http://cgi.w3.org/Register/selectUser.pl?_w3c_meetingName=WSAWG_WSDWG_20
> 0307
> [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/arch/3/07/f2fSeptLogistics.html
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 5.  Task Force Status.
>  a. Properties and Features (dormant)
>  b. Patterns
>  c. Attributes
>  d. QA & Testing
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 6.  New Issues.  Merged issues list [.1].
>   - none
> 
> [.1]
> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 7.  Open content model - validate "strict" [.1].
> 
> [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0068.html
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 8.  Polishing off single service per interface
>     Terminology [.1]  Diagram [.2, .3]
>     Alternatives: @targetResource
>                   @serviceGroup [.5]
> 
>   - Naming the service resource [.4]
> 
> [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0018.html
> [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0064.html
> [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0019.html
> [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0008.html
> [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0055.html
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 9.  Binding enhancements
>     Sanjiva proposes [.1] to:
>       1) Drop @interface from binding, since now in service. 
>       2) Allow inlining interface-wide binding within a port and 
>          making binding optional. 
>       3) Define default binding (SOAP doc/lit).  
>       4) Dealing with operation specific SOAPActions.
>     Kevin proposes to [.2]:
>       1) Allow reuse of parts of bindings through a BindingDetails
>          element and corresponding references.
>     Consolidated proposal [.3]
>     Amy's feedback [.4]
> 
> [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0046.html
> [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html
> [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0017.html
> [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0051.html
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 10. Removing message.
>     Investigating idea to cleanly separate interop at the message 
>     format level from interop at the programming model level. Proposal
>     from Sanjiva [.1]
> 
> [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jul/0025.html
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 11. R085 Describing endpoint references.  [.1]
>   - General agreement to add such capability to WSDL, but
>     not agreement on the precise form of the annotations and
>     where in the WSDL they should reside. Proposal 
>     from Umit [.3], response from Arthur [.4].
>   - Related issue (?) dynamic discovery of a service [.2].
> 
> [.1]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/att-0088/R085-20
> 03-04-22.html
> [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0004.html
> [.3]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/att-0024/umit_pr
> oposal.html__charset_ISO-8859-1
> [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0142.html
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 12. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
> 
> [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x64 
> [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
> [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
> [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 13. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
>   - Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [.2]
>     Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed 
>     attribute.
>   - Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.3].
> 
> [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2 
> [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
> [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 14. Moving MIME Type Information to the Interface [.1]
>     Awaiting proposal from Philippe.
> 
> [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0028.html 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 15. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
>     Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
> 
> [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
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