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RE: Quality of Service

From: <info@johanpeeters.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 13:54:36 -0700 (PDT)
To: jeffsch@windows.microsoft.com
Cc: mrbannon@uwaterloo.ca, www-ws-desc@w3.org
Message-Id: <20030416135441.9241.h006.c001.wm@mail.johanpeeters.com.criticalpath.net>

There has been some discussion at the OASIS WSS TC about QoP (Quality of Protection) which I would consider as a subset
of QoS. My understanding is that they are currently thinking of introducing a new binding, secure SOAP, that would have
extensions allowing you to specify the QoP. Is this the way to go? I personally would hope for a more orthogonal
definition of QoP (and other QoS aspects for that matter). I.e. a QoP can apply to a web service regardless of whether
its wire format is SOAP or not. It seems to me that WS-Policy might just do that.
But that is by-the-by. What I really want to know is this: what are the respective responsibilities of the W3C WS
description WG and the OASIS WSS TC working group wrt QoP/QoS descriptions and how will the pieces ever fit together?
Will a WSDL 1.2 specification tell us, for example, whether a secure SOAP message is required to access a service? What
if the binding is not SOAP?

kr,

Yo


On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:11:18 -0700, "Jeffrey Schlimmer" wrote:





















This really hasn’t been discussed
within the WG yet. However, as you point out, it could be done via
extensibility elements – where allowed in WSDL 1.1 and pretty much
everywhere in WSDL 1.2. I suspect that WS-Policy etc would be another
interesting alternative.

 

--Jeff

 











From:
www-ws-desc-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan Bannon
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:50 AM
To: www-ws-desc@w3.org



 



 





 





Thanks for your response Jeff.





 





If I understand WSDL properly, one could allow for QoS to be
represented in a WSDL file by using extensibility options.





While it may not have been formally discussed on w3c.org, is
this currently the preferred way for applying QoS descriptions to WSDL
files?  (I assume there must be some discussion on this...)





 





Or am I just totally confused?  :)





 





Thanks,





 





Ryan





 







----- Original Message ----- 





From: Jeffrey Schlimmer 





To: Michael Ryan
Bannon 





Cc: www-ws-desc@w3.org






Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:56 PM





Subject: RE: Quality of
Service





 



Ryan, the following requirement has been
accepted by the W3C Web Services Description Working Group (WG), but the WG
hasn’t as yet discussed any proposals for meeting that requirement.

 

R117 

The description language SHOULD allow
specifying QoS-like policies and mechanisms of a Web Service. For instance, an
indication of how long it is going to take a Web Service to process the
request. (From WG discussion. Last discussed 12 April 2002.)

 

http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-desc-reqs/


 

--Jeff

 











From:
www-ws-desc-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan Bannon
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:49 AM
To: www-ws-desc@w3.org



 




 







Hi,





 





Long time listener...but I don't post much.  I've got a
question about QoS in WSDL 1.2.





I've gone over the 1.2 specs and there doesn't seem to be
any fucntionality offered by WSDL directly for describing the QoS for a web
service.  Is there a practice for defining QoS within 1.2?  Does one
have to use the extensibility options?





 





Thanks,





 





Ryan

Johan Peeters
Software Architecture Services
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Received on Wednesday, 16 April 2003 16:54:46 GMT

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