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Agenda for 5 Sept 2002 WS Description WG

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:17:40 -0700
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Dial in information (members only) [0]:

[0] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Sep/0000.html

See the public WG page [1] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [2] for administrative matters. 

[1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
      Jochen Ruetschlin (fallback Bill Stumbo, Sandra Swearingen, Jerry
Thrasher, Steve Tuecke, William Vambenepe, Don Wright, Joyce Yang)

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2.  Approval of minutes [3].  Pallavi and Barbara sent late regrets.

[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0135.html

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3.  Review of Action items.
?        2002-07-21: GlenD and JJM to write up proposal for handling 
                     MEPs with regard to Soap	
?        2002-07-21: GLEN & Sanjiva to write up the comment about MEPs
                     & features to XMLP group
?        2002-07-21: GlenD to send DavidB details on hosting November
                     F2F
PENDING  2002-07-21: JM to decide potential November F2F overlap on Wed
                     Nov 13 with Arch
?        2002-07-21: Jeffrey & Gudge to flesh out a proposal for
                     omitting operation from soap binding
?        2002-07-21: Don Mullen to write up an issue on transport
attribute 
DONE [4] 2002-07-25: Glen write up an issue on transport URIs compliance
                     with SOAP
?        2002-07-25: Sanjiva and Gudge to work on combining the AM

[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0132.html

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4.  SOAP 1.2 Last Call [9, 10, 11] call for review [12].  Awaiting text
from Glen and/or Sanjiva.  I think we missed the boat on this one.

[9] http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part0/ 
[10] http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/ 
[11] http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part2/ 
[12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0001.html

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5.  FTF Agenda
Review, rearrange and augment first draft of the agenda [13].  Note that
the facilities don't accommodate overlapping groups, and we will thus
plan to end at noon on Wed.

[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Sep/0004.html
(members only)

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6.  New Issues
Philippe points out a couple of public comments on the public comments
list [13].  What process do we want to follow (pre-last-call) to respond
to these comments and make sure real ones appear on our issues list?

[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/

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7.  SOAP TF Status?  Need more meetings?  Is [15] the output?
Conclusions so far:
  (1) We need to be able to express MEPs in the SOAP binding.
  (2) The ability to describe features and MEPs at the abstract level
      would be a good thing, but right now we don't know how much effort
      it would take to do so.
  (3) Feedback to XMLP WG: lack of something (such as a header) to
      express the MEP in use.  (Glen: perhaps we should say that, for 
      each binding, there must be a way to identify unambiguously the 
      MEP in use; of course, for bindings that support just one MEP 
      that's a no-op).
  (4) Currently, there is no well-defined one-way MEP.

[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0034.html

This topic was deferred last time.  Is there anything more we need to do
here?

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8. Proposal: Hoisting SOAP binding attributes [16].  Roberto's amendment
at [17].

[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0058.html
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0105.html

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9. Issue 51: Asymmetry between soap:body and soap:header [18].  Thread
starts at [19] (Kevin), continues at [20] and [21].

[18] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x51
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0048.html
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0049.html 
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0081.html 

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10. Issue 25: Interaction between W3C XML Schema and SOAP Data Model 
    Gudge's explains at [22], Roberto's options at [23].

[22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0186.html
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0071.html

FTF?

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11. Issue 5: EncodingStyle
    Issue 30: soap:body encodingStyle 
    Dietmar's soaptf proposal for encoding and use attributes. [24]
    Arthur's recommendations. [25, 26]

[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Jul/0016.html 
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0178.html
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0178.html

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12. Issue 18: Default for transport of <soap:binding> [27]. Jeffrey's
proposal at [28].

[27]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html#
x18
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0122.html

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13. HTTP Binding Issues (6a, 41)
    Jeffrey recommends no change [29].
    Sanjiva is mulling this over [30].

[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0102.html
[30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0067.html

- Jonathan
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