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RE: Importing schemata into WSDL

From: Amelia A Lewis <alewis@tibco.com>
Date: 15 Oct 2002 13:17:43 -0400
To: Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
Cc: Don Mullen <donmullen@tibco.com>, Jacek Kopecky <jacek@systinet.com>, WSDescription WG <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1034702264.10221.30.camel@xerom>

XSD is supported in 1.1.  I don't propose changing that (I can foresee
the screams that would erupt).  I'm proposing that alternate schema
mechanisms should be defined in this fashion.

On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 12:59, Martin Gudgin wrote:
> Amy,
> 
> It's not clear to me whether you are suggesting that XSD be supported
> via an extensibility element or just things other than XSD?
> 
> Gudge
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amelia A Lewis [mailto:alewis@tibco.com] 
> > Sent: 15 October 2002 09:08
> > To: Martin Gudgin
> > Cc: Don Mullen; Jacek Kopecky; WSDescription WG
> > Subject: RE: Importing schemata into WSDL
> > 
> > 
> > In fact, I think this should be treated more or less as an 
> > extensibility element.  If my processor relaxes, then I can 
> > use relaxing syntax to pull in a schema.  If it sox-hops, use 
> > soxy syntax.  And so on. 
> > Presumably, each schema type other than the default would define:
> > 
> > one or more attributes on message, to point at a type 
> > definition. an element to be used as a child of types 
> > indicating import information.
> > 
> > Presumably, these extensions would be defined in a concise 
> > document ("Using Relax NG with SOAP"), which would gain 
> > support for standardization by adoption pre-standard.
> > 
> > Amy!
> > On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 11:12, Martin Gudgin wrote:
> > > 
> > > Oh, I think that xsd:import is used ONLY for XSD schemas. 
> > If we want 
> > > to pull in Relax NG schemas then that should be done with a 
> > different 
> > > element. Given people would need a new attribute on 
> > wsdl:part anyway, 
> > > in order to refer to Relax NG constructs, it doesn't seem too 
> > > burdensome to coin another element.
> > > 
> > > Gudge
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Don Mullen [mailto:donmullen@tibco.com]
> > > > Sent: 15 October 2002 06:09
> > > > To: Martin Gudgin
> > > > Cc: Jacek Kopecky; WS Description WG
> > > > Subject: RE: Importing schemata into WSDL
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, I think this works well, and is what I had in mind as
> > > > option #3 [1]. Upon reflection, I don't think we need 
> > > > anything indicating what kind of schema is being imported.  
> > > > That information would be available in the XML file (if 
> > > > location used) or already effectively processed and available 
> > > > by the schema cache.
> > > > 
> > > > It seems slightly strange to use the XML Schema namespace
> > > > <import> to pull in a Relax NG schema or some other schema 
> > > > language, but it works, and most processors are going to 
> > > > support XML Schema (perhaps exclusively).
> > > > 
> > > > Don
> > > > 
> > > > [1] 
> > > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0051.html
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Martin Gudgin [mailto:mgudgin@microsoft.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:57 PM
> > > > To: Don Mullen
> > > > Cc: Jacek Kopecky; WS Description WG
> > > > Subject: RE: Importing schemata into WSDL
> > > > 
> > > > I've been thinking a bit more about this. How about
> > > > 
> > > > <wsdl:types>
> > > >   <xs:import namespace='http://example.org/foo' />
> > > >   <xs:import namespace='http://example.org/bar' />
> > > > 
> > > >   <xs:schema targetNamespace='http://example.org/baz' >
> > > >     <xs:import namespace='http://example.org/quux' />
> > > >   </xs:schema>
> > > > </wsdl:types>
> > > > 
> > > > and say that schema components in foo, bar and baz are
> > > > visible to WSDL components but schema components in quux are 
> > > > only visible to the inline schema. Schema components in foo 
> > > > and bar are NOT visible to the inline schema.
> > > > 
> > > > Gudge
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > -- 
> > Amelia A. Lewis
> > Architect, TIBCO/Extensibility, Inc.
> > alewis@tibco.com
> > 
> > 
-- 
Amelia A. Lewis
Architect, TIBCO/Extensibility, Inc.
alewis@tibco.com
Received on Tuesday, 15 October 2002 13:17:58 GMT

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