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Agenda: 11-13 Nov WS Description WG FTF

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:29:48 -0800
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To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>

Logistics, including dial-in numbers [1].

[1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/04/f2fNovLogistics.html

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Monday 11 November
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09:00 Introductions and logistics
      - Assignment of scribes
          (pool of likely victims: Don Wright, Kevin Liu, Tom Jordahl, 
           Jacek Kopecky, Arthur Ryman, David Booth, Philippe Le
Hegaret,
           Sanjiva, Steve Lind, Roberto Chinnici)
        
09:20 Spec update (editors):
      - Requirements [2] - in last call
      - Usage Scenarios
      - Primer [3] - when do we publish?
          issue-transition-documentation [4,5]: Do we need to provide
user
          documentation describing the transition between WSDL 1.1 
          and WSDL 1.2?
      - Part 1 [6] - when do we publish again?
      - Part 2 [7] - when do we publish again?
      - RDF mapping
      - Issues list [8]

      Revised Schedule

  [2]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/requirements/ws-desc-re
qs.html
  [3]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12-primer.ht
ml
  [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0247.html
  [5]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-transition-docume
ntation
  [6]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12.html
  [7]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~//2002/ws/desc/wsdl12/wsdl12-bindings
.html
  [8] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html

10:00 Name uniqueness issues
      - issue-toplevel-element-name-uniqueness [9]
      - issue-operation-name-uniqueness [10]
      - issue-fault-name-uniqueness [11]

  [9]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-toplevel-element-
name-uniqueness
 [10]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-operation-name-un
iqueness
 [11]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-fault-name-unique
ness

10:30 Break
10:50 R120 URI-Reference revised proposal [12] (Arthur)
  [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0038.html

12:00 Lunch
13:00 Output operations (issue-remove-solicit-response-operations [13],
                         issue-remove-notification-operations [14])
      - Pub/Sub (Joyce, Sanjiva, ...)
      - Example TCP binding for SOAP (Jeffrey, Don Mullen)

 [13]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-remove-solicit-re
sponse-operations
 [14]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-remove-notificati
on-operations

15:00 Break
15:20 Output operations (continued)
17:30 Adjourn

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Tuesday 12 November
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09:00 Importing Schema into WSDL
        (issue-importing-documents-in-same-namespace [20])
        Proposal for wsdl:import and wsdl:include [21]
        Proposal for wsdl:using [22]

 [20]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-importing-documen
ts-in-same-namespace
 [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0067.html
 [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0114.html

10:00 Equivalence of top-level components [23] (Sanjiva)
 [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0151.html

10:30 Break
10:50 Equivalence of top-level components (continued)

11:10 Promoting operations to the top level (Gudge)

12:00 Lunch
13:00 Replacing wsdl:message with XML Schema [24] (Roberto, Jeffrey,
Gudge)
 [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0035.html

14:30 Type system issues
      - Wrapping other type systems using XML Schema [25] (Amy, Gudge)
      - issue-allow-nonxml-typesystems [26], 
      - Rationale for dropping the <soap:body use=...> attribute [27]
          Proposal from Jacek on better describing the extensibility 
          mechanism to support other languages. [28]
      - issue-clarify-type-and-element [29],

 [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0037.html
 [26]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-allow-nonxml-type
systems
 [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0054.html
 [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0040.html
 [29]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-clarify-type-and-
element

15:00 Break
15:20 Type system issues (continued)

16:00 Extension using substitution groups [30]
 [30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0089.html

16:30 Remaining Part 1 issues:
      - issue-remove-optional-name-of-definition [31]
          Should we remove the optional name attribute of <definitions>?
      - issue-implements-attribute [32]
          Should there be an implements attribute on 'service'

 [31]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-remove-optional-n
ame-of-definition
 [32]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#xissue-implements-attrib
ute
      
17:30 Adjourn

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Wednesday 12 November
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09:00 TBD - complete unfinished business while awaiting JJM to dial in.
09:30 Properties and features
        Glen's "slice" [40].
        Canon's change requests [41].
        Amy's comments [42].
        Tibco proposal (revised) [43].
        Tibco SOAP email binding [44].

 [40] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0004.html
 [41] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0080.html
 [42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0104.html
 [43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0149.html
 [44] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0126.html

10:30 Break
10:50 Properties and features (continued)
12:00 Lunch
13:00 Part 2 issues dependent on properties and features
      - Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [45].
                 Jean-Jacques proposal at [46].
                 Jacek's addendum at [47].
      - Issue 28: transport='uri' [48]
      - Issue 6a, 41: HTTP Binding Issues
                      Jeffrey recommends no change [49].
                      Sanjiva is mulling this over [50].

 [45] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2
 [46] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0050.html
 [47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0056.html
 [48] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x28
 [49] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0102.html
 [50] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0067.html

15:00 Break
15:20 Work items awaiting further work on the abstract model.
      - BindingType proposal from Kevin [51].
      - Issue 25: Interaction between W3C XML Schema and SOAP Data 
          Model. Gudge explains at [52], Roberto's options at [53].

 [51] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Aug/0009.html
 [52] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0186.html
 [53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0071.html

16:00 TBD: completing unfinished business, resolving additional
      issues, or selecting celebratory beverages.

17:30 Adjourn
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