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Agenda for 7 November 2002 WS Description WG

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:04:04 -0800
Message-ID: <330564469BFEC046B84E591EB3D4D59C085CD2AA@red-msg-08.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>

0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters. 

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Nov/0006.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is:
      Steve Tuecke (fallbacks Don Wright, Glen Daniels, Kevin Liu, Tom
Jordahl, Jacek Kopecky)

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2.  Approval of minutes of Oct 31 telcon [.1].  Kevin Liu had sent
regrets, which I missed.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0010.html

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3.  Review of Action items.
?         2002-09-10: Gudge, jeffsch, roberto et al to write proposal
                      to replace message with complexType [due this
week]
FTF       2002-09-10: Gudge to provide summary of using W3C XML Schema
                      to wrap other type systems at an appropriate level
                      of abstraction.
FTF       2002-09-11: Jeffrey, DonM to define TCP binding.
FTF       2002-09-19: Joyce, Sandeep, Igor, Steve T, Sanjiva, Adi,
                      Roberto, Amy to form task force to prepare
                      presentation on adding pub/sub as first class to
                      WSDL 1.2.
?         2002-09-19: Sanjiva to write a Java binding.
FTF       2002-10-10: Gudge to prepare proposal for promoting operations
                      to the top level.
?         2002-10-17: Gudge and A. Lewis to make a proposal for
                      describing xs:import and (apparently) xs:schema 
                      as "required" extensibility elements.
?         2002-10-24: Jacek to provide commentary/response to Arthur's
                      identification by URI proposal.
?         2002-10-31: Arthur will redo proposal to get rid of urn:, also

                      look at XPointer framework.
DONE [.1] 2002-10-31: Jonathan will look at normalized unique
namespaces.
DONE [.2] 2002-10-31: Phillipe will follow up on what we must do about a
                      media type.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0023.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0020.html

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4.  Administrivia
  a. Any last minute FTF logistical questions?

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5.  FTF agenda [.1].
    Besides the current discussion topics, we should have time to go
over some open issues.  Here are a set of candidates I came up with from
the issues list at [.2].  Champions appreciated!

Type system issues:
  issue-allow-nonxml-typesystems
    Allow non-XML type systems?    
  issue-clarify-type-and-element
    Clarify use of type= and element= in part with XML Schema experts.


Naming issues:
  issue-operation-name-uniqueness
    Need to be able to distinguish between operations with the same 
    NCName in different portTypes    
  issue-fault-name-uniqueness
    Should faults be named with QNames?    
  issue-toplevel-element-name-uniqueness
    Should all top-level elements' names be unique across the 
    target namespace?    

Part 2 issues:
  Are there any issues we can tackle prior to the property/feature
discussion?

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Nov/0005.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html

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6.  New Issues.  Merged issues list [.1].
      None found.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html

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7.  Managing extensions [.1].  Is a registry called for?  Philippe's
summary of a related issue in WS Arch [.2], about WS-Security defining
WSDL extensions [.3].  

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0011.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0027.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-arch/2002Nov/0006.html 

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8.  WSDL media type registration.  Mark Baker's conclusion [.1]. Tag
finding [.2], WG process guideline [.3].

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0009.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2002/0129-mime
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype

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9.  Equivalence of Services [.1].

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0151.html

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10.  Importing Schema into WSDL
    Two alternative proposals.  Two elements [.1] or one [.2]. 

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0067.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0114.html

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11.  Identification of a Service [.1] / Arthur's [.2] identification
proposal [.3].  Comparison with NUNs [.4].

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Oct/0017.html
(members only)
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0084.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/att-0084/01-URI-
References.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Nov/0023.html

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12. A slice at a proposal for SOAP features/properties in WSDL [.1].
Canon's change requests [.2].  Amy's comments [.3].  Tibco proposal
(revised) [.4].  Tibco SOAP email binding [.5].

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0004.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0080.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0104.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0149.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0126.html

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13. Rationale for dropping the <soap:body use=...> attribute [.1]
     Proposal from Jacek on better describing the extensibility
mechanism to support other languages. [.2]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0054.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Oct/0040.html

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14. BindingType proposal from Kevin [.1].
      Awaiting further work on Part 2 AM.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Aug/0009.html

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15. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
    Jean-Jacques proposal at [.2].
    Jacek's addendum at [.3].
    Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0050.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Sep/0056.html

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16. Issue 28: transport='uri' [.1]
    Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x28

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17. HTTP Binding Issues (6a, 41)
    Jeffrey recommends no change [.1].
    Sanjiva is mulling this over [.2].
    Dependent upon Glen's feature/property proposal.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0102.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0067.html

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18. Issue 25: Interaction between W3C XML Schema and SOAP Data Model 
    Gudge's explains at [.1], Roberto's options at [.2].
    Waiting for more detail in ACM?

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jun/0186.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Jul/0071.html

- Jonathan
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