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Re: "Web service" or "web service"

From: Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanjiva@watson.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:06:21 -0500
Message-ID: <002401c29da6$01c2f0c0$7f00a8c0@lankabook2>
To: "David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>, "'Champion, Mike'" <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>, <www-ws-desc@w3.org>

Hey, just because I happen to share a dubyah initial with
certain politicians don't put me in a doctrine creating camp!!

FWIW, if it were up to me we'd be done with all this by now;
but unfortunately authoritative dictators are not in fashion
according to some doctrines these days ...

Now, in all seriousness, I will work on changing our draft
to say "Web Service" as this WG wishes until you folks make up
your mind otherwise and request Jonathan and our WG to change it.

Sanjiva.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>
To: "'Champion, Mike'" <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>;
<www-ws-desc@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: "Web service" or "web service"


>
> So any chance of you telling us what the right thing is for a whole bunch
of
> areas?  Maybe the Saniva W "WS-Doctrine" or the "SWWS-Arch" or "WS
according
> to Sanjiva"?  If WSD goes against what you want, just punt it to ws-arch
and
> then it could just do what you want?  That would save us all a whack of
time
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org]On
> > Behalf Of Sanjiva Weerawarana
> > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:02 PM
> > To: David Orchard; 'Champion, Mike'; www-ws-desc@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: "Web service" or "web service"
> >
> >
> >
> > Iff it does the (== my) right thing, of course.
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>
> > To: "'Sanjiva Weerawarana'" <sanjiva@watson.ibm.com>;
> > "'Champion, Mike'"
> > <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>; <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:23 PM
> > Subject: RE: "Web service" or "web service"
> >
> >
> > >
> > > So Sanjiva, if wsd had thought that Web service was right,
> > and ws-arch
> > > thought that Web Service was right, would ws-arch still have the
> > authority?
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Is the ws-arch authority only if it does the right thing ;-)
> > >
> > > he he
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: www-ws-desc-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:www-ws-desc-request@w3.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Sanjiva Weerawarana
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:51 AM
> > > > To: Champion, Mike; www-ws-desc@w3.org
> > > > Subject: Re: "Web service" or "web service"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes yes yes please do override the WS-Desc decision .. we have
> > > > given you guys the authority do so per the last telecon!!
> > > >
> > > > "Web Service" is wrong. "Web service" is right. Of course.
> > > >
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Sanjiva.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Champion, Mike" <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>
> > > > To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:31 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: "Web service" or "web service"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Martin Gudgin [mailto:mgudgin@microsoft.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 3:43 PM
> > > > > > To: Sanjiva Weerawarana; Mark Baker; www-ws-desc@w3.org
> > > > > > Subject: RE: "Web service" or "web service"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was decided on the call to go for "Web Service". From
> > > > the IRC log:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The WSA WG did a straw poll on our telcon yesterday and
> > > > there was a 2:1
> > > > > majority for "Web service."  Although obviously no one
> > > > wants to "lay down
> > > > in
> > > > > the road" on such a non-critical issue, two fairly strong
> > > > reasons emerged
> > > > in
> > > > > the discussion:
> > > > >
> > > > > - In terms of grammar, "Web" should be capitalized because
> > > > it is a proper
> > > > > noun, i.e., it refers to the World Wide Web, and "service"
> > > > is not.  (I
> > > > guess
> > > > > one could argue that "Web Service" is a compound proper
> > > > noun, like United
> > > > > States or whatever).
> > > > >
> > > > > - In sheer pragmatic terms, at least two member
> > companies (rather
> > > > > substantial ones, to say the least) noted that they had
> > standardized
> > > > > internally on "Web service" and that there was a LOT of
> > > > documentation,
> > > > > marketing material, etc. that would in principle have to be
> > > > revised at
> > > > > substantial cost to be consistent with a different convention.
> > > > >
> > > > > Very deep sigh :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
Received on Friday, 6 December 2002 23:08:49 GMT

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