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RE: Fwd: RE: EDI and Security Text

From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:54:41 -0600
Message-ID: <7FCB5A9F010AAE419A79A54B44F3718E031328AF@bocnte2k3.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
To: "Hugo Haas" <hugo@w3.org>, "David Booth" <dbooth@w3.org>
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org

Have you been following this thread, Hugo?  It seems to me that the
changes you propose would move it significantly in the direction that
I'm uncomfortable with, for reasons I have tried to explain (near the
bottom of the long thread).

FWIW, I personally think that it is NOT a good idea to recommend URI's
for this purpose.   So our opinions seem to differ here.  But I am
certainly willing to consider that a more detailed look at the
mechanisms might prove me wrong -- which I think David was trying to
indicate by talking about the issues involving details of engineering.  

At any rate, I certainly don't want to get involved in a big conflict
about this.  At the most I think we are talking about nuances, and I'm
not emotionally involved with my nuance.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hugo Haas [mailto:hugo@w3.org] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:58 AM
To: David Booth
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org; Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler)
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: EDI and Security Text

Hi David.

Just a couple of comments:

* David Booth <dbooth@w3.org> [2004-01-07 15:15-0500]
> >>I've added another paragraph:
> >>
> >>"This is not to say that Web services tracking <emph>must</emph> be 
> >>done
> >>
> >>using URIs in this way.  Indeed, there are other ways tracking can 
> >>be performed, and any engineering design must take many factors into

> >>consideration.  Rather, the point is to illuminate the fact that, 
> >>because Web services architecture is based on Web architecture, Web 
> >>services have the <emph>possibility</emph> of taking advantage of 
> >>this use of URIs."
> >>
> >>Does that address your concerns?

FWIW, I think that it's a good thing to recommend URIs. I am not sure
that this paragraph is necessary since the text is introduced as an

Also, instead of "As a simple example, suppose ...", I would say "To
illustrate their benefit, suppose ...".

> >> >[[
> >> >Furthermore, a URI can be clickable: If the URI also represents 
> >> >the location of a document (or a dynamic query into a database), 
> >> >it could
> >
> >> >act as a convenient link for determining the status or history of 
> >> >that transaction, provided the user is authorized to access such
> >>information.
> >> >
> >> >(Security mechanisms will need to ensure that a tracking URI 
> >> >cannot be dereferenced without proper authority and privacy 
> >> >controls, but the use
> >>
> >> >of URIs is largely orthogonal to this requirement.)
> >> >]]

Instead of "clickable", I would use dereferencable, which is the term
used by the Web architecture document.



Hugo Haas - W3C
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