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RE: Web services: Meet the new boss; same as the old boss ???

From: Champion, Mike <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:45:28 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) 
> [mailto:RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com] 
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 5:55 PM
> To: Champion, Mike; www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Web services: Meet the new boss; same as the old boss ???
> I think this is actually a pretty good article -- I can't 
> imagine why you think it is inflammatory.  Seems pretty 
> accurate to me.

Well, I didn't say it wasn't accurate :-)  Just that the authors (or more
likely the editors) went out of their way to get in some zingers, like the
"meet the new boss; same as the old boss" line, and various cracks about how
WS were supposed to be simple but seem to be making the megaconsultancies
the happiest.  Some people (especially those from IBM) might take it as a
bit of an attack, so I was just warning people to look at the substance not
the tone.

The major implication I draw is what many people have been saying for the
last 6 months -- that WS are most effective in the context of an SOA rather
than as an ad hoc integration strategy.  I agree that this is a bit out of
scope for us, except that to some extent our job is to help set rational
expectations for what WS can really do, irrespective of the hype a couple of
years ago.  I think we *are* moving toward treating SOA as a first class
citizen in the WSA, so if anything this just might reinforce our resolve to
do that.
> Within a company like ours Web service 
> architecture has to do with stuff that at the W3C level would 
> be dismissed fairly casually as implementation detail and/or 
> best practices. 

Good point!
Received on Monday, 8 September 2003 18:55:06 UTC

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