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Re: Magic

From: Walden Mathews <waldenm@optonline.net>
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 14:55:25 -0400
To: Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>, www-ws-arch@w3.org
Message-id: <007001c31ca5$e0c208a0$1702a8c0@WorkGroup>

+1

To understand it (even a little) is to build something.  Go for it,
everybody.

Walden

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Baker" <distobj@acm.org>
To: <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:48 PM
Subject: Magic


>
> On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 01:50:06PM -0400, Newcomer, Eric wrote:
> > Let's please forget about REST, the Semantic Web, and the other academic
exercises and focus on solving problems for business.
>
> Just because you don't understand it, please don't denigrate it.
>
> The Web generates more business value every hour of every day, than
> SOA-style systems (combined) ever have or ever will.  Unconstrained
> interfaces are simply not suitable for the Internet.  Period.  End of
> story.  The empiricial evidence backs me up on this too.  The fact that
> lots of otherwise intelligent people (whose only mistake is they just
> haven't done their homework on Internet scale systems) don't understand
> that, does not all of a sudden make it so.
>
> I *understand* that the Web looks like some trivial and cutesy
> human-driven system that enables crude UIs to be deployed in a thin-
> client fashion.  6 years ago, I thought the same thing too, and was a
> big fan of SOAs.  But it is *SO* much more, and I *WISH* people would
> just try to make a *SMALL* effort to understand that without getting all
> defensive and nervous about the prospect that they're mistaken; heck,
> if you are wrong, you're in good company 8-)  When I started studying
> the Web in 96/97, I wasn't expecting to learn what the Web was; I was
> just trying to find out what made it so successful so that I could
> incorporate that into my work (with CORBA, at the time).  I was as
> surprised as anybody to learn what I did; that not only did it have some
> neat things to offer CORBA, it removed the need for CORBA altogether.  I
> remember being absolutely stunned for about a week in May of '98 after a
> talk with Roy in which I finally "got it"; I hardly slept.
>
> Anyhow, excuse me for venting.  I just couldn't let that tripe pass by
> without responding.
>
> *PLEASE*, everyone, try to make an effort to understand it before you
> dismiss it.  If you understand it, but still want to dismiss it, then
> go nuts. 8-)
>
> MB
>
>
Received on Saturday, 17 May 2003 14:51:07 GMT

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