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RE: Proposed Venn Diagrams

From: Dave Hollander <dmh@contivo.com>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 10:12:22 -0700
Message-ID: <BD52C6379806D51188DD00508BEEC96C012A1041@mail.contivo.com>
To: www-ws-arch@w3.org

Roger, I like your tunneling verb phrasing...it is clear.

"tunneling verbs" is a key concept and I would love to understand
how REST people percieve it.

Is it REST/uniform interface if the verb is GET but there is another 
verb "tunneled" in the payload and responded to by the application? 

daveh

I assume yes, of course...but you know what assume means.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) [mailto:RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Walden Mathews; Champion, Mike; www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: RE: Proposed Venn Diagrams



I could be wrong, but I don't think that's what they are meaning by
"uniform interface semantics".  I think that the intention here is to
refer to the REST architecture idea that "thou shalt use no verbs but my
verbs".  I believe that they consider "tunneling" verbs through CGI
scripts to violate the architecture.  Subject to correction from the
real experts here, of course.

-----Original Message-----
From: Walden Mathews [mailto:waldenm@optonline.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Champion, Mike; www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: Re: Proposed Venn Diagrams



> Uhh, do all those CGI scripts on the Web use "uniform interface
semantics"?
> If so (because they are accessed via HTTP POST, I presume) what makes 
> HTML forms more "uniform" in their semantics than SOAP messages?  And 
> if the scripts/cookies/app servers/etc. are in B but not C, then is B 
> really much too large relative to C?

I'll take a stab (or should I say "spear") at that.  Yes, actually those
CGI scripts do use "uniform interface semantics", and probably too
uniform for their own good, as the distinction between GET and POST is
so often missed or abused.

Too much of a "good" thing can be a "bad" thing.

--Walden

(How'm I doin'?)
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