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Re: Example of WS misinformation

From: Anne Thomas Manes <anne@manes.net>
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 08:04:11 -0400
Message-ID: <000201c32e79$54671c70$0300a8c0@TPX21>
To: "Ugo Corda" <UCorda@SeeBeyond.com>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Example of WS misinformationThe guy who wrote this article didn't have a clue of what he was talking about. He was equating "SOAP encoding" with SOAP. I feel sullied to have been quoted in the article.

Anne
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ugo Corda 
  To: www-ws-arch@w3.org 
  Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 6:48 PM
  Subject: Example of WS misinformation


  I couldn't resist sharing this. I just came across an article on ADTmag titled "WSDL rolls along" (see [1]). The introduction says:

  "Some players want to move away from the Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP), viewed as the other cornerstone of Web services".

  So I thought, this is interesting, it presents the view of the "Web services == WSDL only" crowd. In fact, reading on, it says:

  "the role of SOAP as one of the two cornerstones of Web services is now in question. A dogfight has now erupted over whether or not SOAP is necessary for WSDL interoperability".

  The explanation of how you can have "WSDL interoperability" without SOAP? It comes a few lines below: 

  "The Web Services Interoperability Organization, WS-I, doesn't use SOAP encoding at all; they have the basic profile and have determined from real-world testing that, if you want to be maximally interoperable, you shouldn't use SOAP encoding".

  In other words, nothing to do with SOAP not being necessary for "WSDL interoperability". 

  Another gem under the "WSDL and security" section: 

  "IBM and Microsoft have jointly proposed the WS-Security standard for WSDL and put it before the Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards (OASIS)"

  where the irony is that WSS' input document only talks about SOAP security and actually "forgot" to express security in WSDL constructs.



  Ugo 



  [1] http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=7735 
Received on Monday, 9 June 2003 07:23:02 GMT

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