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RE: Draft definition of WS

From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:35:42 -0500
Message-ID: <7FCB5A9F010AAE419A79A54B44F3718E01817F15@bocnte2k3.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
To: michael.mahan@nokia.com, dbooth@w3.org, www-ws-arch@w3.org

How about "other software systems"?  I don't think that another system
needs to be "remote" in order to invoke a Web service.  It might be the
usual, or most interesting, situation -- but ...

I personally don't think that "may" carries with it the implication that
you draw, but I'd also personally rather not add "may" to "has" and "is"
as topics that we debate for ungodly amounts of time.  To me, however,
in this context "may" implies, "they interact with the Web service if
they feel like it", which seems right to me.  It seems to me, however,
that the sentence scans OK either way and I don't see a substantive
difference in meaning.

-----Original Message-----
From: michael.mahan@nokia.com [mailto:michael.mahan@nokia.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:57 AM
To: dbooth@w3.org; Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler); www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: RE: Draft definition of WS


This is pedantic, but I would like to edit the phrase: 

'Other systems may interact with the Web service in a manner prescribed
by its description, ...'

Does it not logically follow then that other systems could interact in a
manner not prescribed by its description... Should this looseness be
part of the definition? I would narrow the meaning some:

'Other systems interact with the Web service in a manner prescribed by
its description, ...'

I am also unclear why we use the term 'Other systems'. If a WS consumer
is interacting with a WS provider, are they not part of the same
'system'. Could we say instead 'A remote processor'? 

Thx.
MikeM


>-----Original Message-----
>From: ext David Booth [mailto:dbooth@w3.org]
>Sent: July 24, 2003 09:58 PM
>To: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler); www-ws-arch@w3.org
>Subject: RE: Draft definition of WS
>
>
>
>Your changes look good to me.  Thanks.
>
>At 05:46 PM 7/24/2003 -0500, Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) wrote:
>>[Roger's suggested modifications:]
>>
>>There are many things that might reasonably be called "Web
>services" in
>>the world at large.  However, for the purpose of this
>architecture, and
>>without prejudice toward other definitions, we will use the following
>>definition:
>>
>>A Web service is a software system designed to support 
>>machine-to-machine interaction over a network.  It is identified by a 
>>URI and has public interfaces described in a
>machine-processable format
>>(WSDL). Other systems may interact with the Web service in a manner 
>>prescribed by its description, typically using XML-based messages 
>>conveyed using HTTP, SOAP and other Web-related standards.
>
>
>--
>David Booth
>W3C Fellow / Hewlett-Packard
>Telephone: +1.617.253.1273
>
>
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