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Re: Visibility (was Re: Introducing the Service Oriented Architec tural style, and it's constraints and properties.

From: Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 02:09:15 -0500
To: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
Message-ID: <20030228020915.C28917@www.markbaker.ca>

On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:36:41PM -0800, David Orchard wrote:
> And now I'll answer the first paragraph.  Visibility is a degree of
> visibility, not an absolute yes/no.

Of course.

>  Firewalls will look at many things in
> messages, like ip addresses, http methods, URIs, port #s, etc.


> Even if the method name goes in the SOAP envelope, it's still visible to the
> intermediary.

No, it isn't.  It isn't enough that the string "FOO" can be run through
some parser, because anything can be run through a parser.  The issue
is, does the app have prior knowledge of that what that string means?

> It may be harder than if the method wasn't.  I think you are
> purposefully avoiding the simplicity argument that goes along with multiple
> protocols.  There is a trade-off in properties at play.  Roughly it's
> simplicity vs visibility and performance.

I'm not saying that other properties weren't improved upon - perhaps
they were, in spades, I don't know.  I'm just asking about visibility;
is there less visibility with the SOA style than with the REST style?

You're not going to answer that, are you? 8-/

Mark Baker.   Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.        http://www.markbaker.ca
Web architecture consulting, technical reports, evaluation & analysis
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