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RE: service / agent terminology

From: Assaf Arkin <arkin@intalio.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:24:07 -0800
To: "Scott Vorthmann" <scottv@tibco.com>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Message-ID: <IGEJLEPAJBPHKACOOKHNOEKHDDAA.arkin@intalio.com>

Big +1

arkin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Scott Vorthmann
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:23 PM
> To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Subject: service / agent terminology
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm somewhat concerned about the direction of today's discussion 
> of terminology.
> 
> I agree with David B that there's a lot of baggage around 
> "service" as a provider.  However, that baggage is not imposed by 
> abstract WSDL... rather it accrues by the common usage of 
> request-reply as the prevalent operation signature.  I'd like to 
> lose the baggage.
> 
> WSDL got many things "right", in my view, and the inclusion of 
> "out" and "out-in" operation signatures is one of them.  This 
> lets me define an entity that has a clear boundary of 
> identifiable, typed communication endpoints... I'd like to call 
> that entity a service, even if its only interaction with the 
> outside world is periodic publishing of time and temp (on an 
> appropriate transport).
> 
> Providing a service need not imply reactive communication... 
> services can be proactive as well.  This means that "provider" 
> need not imply "responder".
> 
> HTTP tunnel-vision has made a similar discussion on the 
> Description group somewhat long and animated, apparently.  I 
> think we have a great opportunity to define an architecture that 
> extends beyond existing Web transport protocols to communation 
> protocols in general.  (Will I now be skewered by REST 
> proponents?)  I hope our charter does not preclude that.
> 
> Scott
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