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Re: Words for the Triangles

From: Heather Kreger <kreger@us.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:54:16 -0400
To: "David Booth" <dbooth@w3.org>
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF49AAFF6B.F353E6F6-ON85256C40.00774F6B@us.ibm.com>

No, you do not discover from the web. Google discovers from the Web. Then
he records it in his registry. THEN  you discover from Google, which is
searching his  - gasp - registry.  So, you are discovering from a registry.

Your interaction with this registry is not any different if it was
populated by traditional  registration of URLs... which apparently is
'not-the-web'. So the abstraction survives despite the fact that it is
populated in apparently web popular and web unpopular methodologies.

The 'web' does not by itself create a google. Some very savy people did it
very deliberately.  Besides which, there are many search engines that
populate their registry/directory with crawled data fromthe web. Google is
one case.

Heather Kreger
Web Services Lead Architect
STSM, SWG Emerging Technology
919-543-3211 (t/l 441)  cell:919-496-9572

David Booth <dbooth@w3.org>@w3.org on 09/26/2002 04:57:52 PM

Please respond to "David Booth" <dbooth@w3.org>

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To:    Heather Kreger/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
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Subject:    Re: Words for the Triangles

At 04:03 PM 9/25/2002 -0400, Heather Kreger (<HK>...</HK>) wrote:

>Hugo Haas <hugo@w3.org> on 09/25/2002 02:18:47 PM
>. . .
>You were saying that you had issues finding a good way to call the
>discovery part. I have the feeling that it actually may not be easily
>described in terms of role.
>In terms of abstract entities here, there is the provider and the
>consumer. The discovery is something which happens between the two of
>them, directly or indirectly. I would therefore suggest simply talking
>about "discovery mechanisms".
><HK> So then do we have "publication mechanisms" as well? They are not
>necessarily symmetric. But what do we discover 'from'?

In the broadest case, from the Web.  But it depends on what discovery
mechanism you're using.  If you're using UDDI for example, they you're
discovering from a particular, centralized registry.  But if you're using
Google, then you're discovering from the Web, using Google as your
discovery tool.

David Booth
W3C Fellow / Hewlett-Packard
Telephone: +1.617.253.1273
Received on Thursday, 26 September 2002 17:54:25 UTC

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