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RE: arch diagrams from the f2f

From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@ChevronTexaco.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:04:27 -0700
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To: "'jones@research.att.com'" <jones@research.att.com>, "Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler)" <RogerCutler@ChevronTexaco.com>, kreger@us.ibm.com
cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org

I would really like to see a simple diagram added that has the response from
the web service going somewhere other than back to the requestor.  It seems
to me that this is a very fundamental architectural component.

-----Original Message-----
From: jones@research.att.com [mailto:jones@research.att.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:57 PM
To: RogerCutler@ChevronTexaco.com; jones@research.att.com; kreger@us.ibm.com
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: RE: arch diagrams from the f2f


I think the compromise would be to base most of the initial discussion
around the simple, unadorned triangle, laying out the range of possibilities
in the text.  The elaborated diagrams should either reflect a union of the
abstractions and/or instantiations in the space or should reflect a
particular architectural style.  I would be comfortable with the former if
it doesn't make things too confusing, but would gladly accept the latter.

--mark

Mark A. Jones
AT&T Labs
Shannon Laboratory
Room 2A-02
180 Park Ave.
Florham Park, NJ  07932-0971

email: jones@research.att.com
phone: (973) 360-8326
  fax: (973) 236-6453

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	I am still concerned that these diagrams seem visually to restrict
web
	services to one messaging pattern.  No matter what the words might
say in
	the text, I think that having pictures that leave this impression
would not
	be good.

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Mark Jones [mailto:jones@research.att.com] 
	Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:50 PM
	To: Heather Kreger
	Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
	Subject: Re: arch diagrams from the f2f


	Heather,

	I  added 3 slides at the end of the set that you sent out.  I
rearranged 
	and simplified the boxes and labels a bit.  I also began to append 
	concrete technology labels on some of the boxes.  (I just made a
cursory 
	pass at this to see what it would look like.  Feel free to further
flesh 
	it out.)  At least while we are deciding on the correct set of boxes
and 
	labels, I think it helps to identify them.

	Mark Jones
	AT&T
	 

	Heather Kreger wrote:

	>
	>
	>
	>Hi folks, Here are the architecture diagrams I drafted up during
our 
	>meeting today. I have some words for some of this stuff that I will

	>align and send to the group as soon as
	>humanly possible.
	>
	>(See attached file: w3cStack.ppt)
	>
	>I have permission from IBM to submit both this stack and the
origional 
	>triangle to the W3C for inclusion into the architecture and 
	>modification by the working group.
	>
	>Heather Kreger
	>Web Services Lead Architect
	>STSM, SWG Emerging Technology
	>kreger@us.ibm.com
	>919-543-3211 (t/l 441)  cell:919-496-9572
	>
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