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RE: D-AC009.2 discussion points and proposal(s)

From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:28:06 -0700
Message-ID: <7FCB5A9F010AAE419A79A54B44F3718E7C939F@bocnte2k3.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
To: "'David Orchard'" <dorchard@bea.com>, "'Sanjiva Weerawarana'" <sanjiva@watson.ibm.com>, www-ws-arch@w3.org
With respect to the proponents of the Semantic Web and RDF -- I agree with
this and I am glad to see it articulated.  I am feeling a certain urgency in
getting things out the door, so that this working group may be not be viewed
as a obstacle to progress.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Orchard [mailto:dorchard@bea.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:07 AM
To: 'Sanjiva Weerawarana'; www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: RE: D-AC009.2 discussion points and proposal(s)

I agree with Sanjiva's perspective of RDF and Web Services.  I, on the other
hand, am a little less interested in more education.  We had a semantic
web/rdf presentation at the last f2f, and I don't think that we need
another.  We have a great deal of work to do in our activity and working
groups.  If we are going to have special presentation topics, I think that
there are other topics that are more relevent.  One example would be
presenation of the WS-Security specification and roadmap.  Or ebXML
Messaging Service approach to reliable messaging.  etc.

If there is any further eduction on rdf to be done, I'd like it to be
outside of times for our scheduled f2f meetings.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Sanjiva Weerawarana
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 4:09 AM
> To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Subject: Re: D-AC009.2 discussion points and proposal(s)
> "Champion, Mike" <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com> writes:
> > We're talking about WSA here, not WSD.  IMHO, one can make
> a good case for
> a
> > WSDL-like language based on RDF without insisting that
> *all* components of
> > the web services architecture be mapped to RDF.  For
> example, it's not
> I'm a member of the WS-Desc WG. We had a presentation about RDF by 
> Eric Prud'hommeaux and David Booth at our April F2F. Prior to that 
> presentation I had little intuition as to how RDF would help WSDL or 
> how an RDF mapping would help better the Web service description 
> cause.
> I'm sorry to say that even after that presentation I have exactly the 
> same intuition: I just don't get it. I try hard to keep an open mind, 
> and I've heard presentations about RDF for 4+ years, but I still don't 
> grok it and its added value. I can sort of see how it could add value 
> to the Web as a whole, but I really fail to see how it adds value to 
> Web services.
> I'm still willing to say that its because I don't understand 
> something, but I wish someone could educate me so that I too can 
> become a believer and an advocate.
> Sanjiva.
Received on Monday, 27 May 2002 12:32:10 UTC

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