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RE: D-AG006 Security

From: Joseph Hui <jhui@digisle.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:05:31 -0800
Message-ID: <C153D39717E5F444B81E7B85018A460B06685889@ex-sj-5.digisle.com>
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Hi Suresh,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
My in-lined comments below are an attempt to get some closure
on open issues in our goal refining, for status reporting purpose.

> BTW, do you find the D-AG006 goal statement as-is acceptable?
> (I do, BTW.)  Care to share any thoughts on it?
> <sd>
> Sure, since you asked:-)
> I find that goal unrealistic and impossible to achieve (as stated).

I beg to differ with an optimistic alternative :-)
I think it can be done, as long as the negative-deliverable
argument I alluded to in [1] is understood.

> "AG006 -- addresses the security of web services across
> distributed domains and platforms"
> I would restate it as follows to reflect what can be done.
> "AG006 : supports securing of web services implemented in heterogeneous
> environments"

Then again, arguments can be made for passing over the
"heterogeneous environments" because in our "universe"
there's only one environment -- the web services environment. .-)
Pardon me if this comes across as tongue-in-cheek. 

Also, the verb "supports" is weaker than I'd like to see
in our WSsec context.  Others may think differently though. 

What I'm trying to say is that I don't think
the gain that may (or may not) be made by replacing
"across distributed domains and platforms" with
"in heterogeneous environments" will be substantial
enough to warrant revamping D-AG006 entirely.  

Frankly I could have suggested replacing "distributed" with
"separately administrated," because much can be inferred about
security from such a loaded term, but the difference it might
make was not significant enough for me to open a Pandora's box.


Joe Hui
Exodus, a Cable & Wireless service

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-arch/2002Mar/0205.html
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