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RE: proposed AC018 rewording

From: <kreger@us.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 11:57:49 -0400
To: "Joseph Hui" <Joseph.Hui@exodus.net>
Cc: "ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1)" <zulah_eckert@hp.com>, "Damodaran, Suresh" <Suresh_Damodaran@stercomm.com>, kreger@us.ibm.com, <Hao.He@thomson.ocm.au>, <adiber@att.com>, <wsgeek2002@yahoo.com>, www-ws-arch@w3.org
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Joe,
I really think that the security management requirement should stay with
the security goal.
I thought that was the net of the F2F, but it was hard for me to know for
sure.

Heather Kreger
Web Services Lead Architect
STSM, SWG Emerging Technology
kreger@us.ibm.com
919-543-3211 (t/l 441)  cell:919-496-9572


"Joseph Hui" <Joseph.Hui@exodus.net>@w3.org on 06/19/2002 06:03:53 PM

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To:    "ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1)" <zulah_eckert@hp.com>, "Damodaran,
       Suresh" <Suresh_Damodaran@stercomm.com>, Heather
       Kreger/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, <Hao.He@thomson.ocm.au>, <adiber@att.com>,
       <wsgeek2002@yahoo.com>
cc:    "WSA W3C Public (E-mail)" <www-ws-arch@w3c.org>
Subject:    RE: proposed AC018 rewording




Hi  Heather & Zulah,

Nice  work!

I've  got a heads-up for you that the following may be headed your  way.

As you  may recall, during the Paris F2F, there was the mention that we
might
want  to relocate under AR018 the admin/management related security
requirement, i.e.

   D-AR006.13 Where a web service  provides security features
   in line with AR006, it SHOULD  provide the ability to manage
   that security in a meaningful  way.

So, to the working group and the public, I'd like to suggest we start
deliberating between:
   1) keep the issues of administering/managing WS  security in the
Security section; or

   2) incorporate them into the WS Management section, as  D-AR018.x.

Cheers,

Joe  Hui
Exodus, a Cable & Wireless service
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From: ECKERT,ZULAH  (HP-Cupertino,ex1) [mailto:zulah_eckert@hp.com]
Sent: Wednesday,  June 19, 2002 12:10 PM
To: 'Damodaran, Suresh'; 'kreger@us.ibm.com';  Hao.He@thomson.ocm.au;
adiber@att.com; ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1);  wsgeek2002@yahoo.com
Cc: WSA W3C Public (E-mail)
Subject:  proposed AC018 rewording



Hi  All,

 Here is  a proposed rewording of AC018 from Heather and Zulah.

Comments?
Zulah

----------------------------------------------------------------------
AC018 Enables the  management of web services

AC018.1 Ensures that implementations of  the Web Services Architecture are
manageable.
AR018.1.1  Define a base set of standard metrics for architectural
components and their  interactions accompanied by guidelines for
measurement.
AR018.1.2  Define a base set of standard management operations for Web
Services  Architecture implementations. Management operations includes, but
is not  limited to, support for configuration control and lifecycle
control.
AR018.1.3 Define a base set of management events to be  issued by the Web
Services Architecture implementation.
AR018.1.4  Define a standard methodology for accessing management
capabilities from the  Web Services Architecture implementation.

AC018.2 Ensures  that implementations of the Web Service instances are
manageable.
AR018.2.1 Define how a web service should expose web  service specific
metrics, configuration, operations, and  events.
AR018.2.2 Support the discovery of web service management  capabilities.
AR018.2.3 Define a standard methodology for  accessing management
capabilities of a Web Service through the Web Services  Architecture
implementation.

AC018.3 Ensure that at least the  following types of management
applications are supported: Performance  Monitoring, Availability,
Configuration, Control, and Service Level  Agreements.
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