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RE: D-AC005 CSFs

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:33:09 -0700
To: "'Christopher B Ferris'" <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>, "'Champion, Mike'" <Mike.Champion@softwareag-usa.com>
Cc: <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Message-ID: <00a201c2345d$8c21e670$d11ce8d8@beasys.com>

Err, we had lots of discussion on 5.1, 5.14, and 5.15 at Paris.  I agree
with Mike's suggestion that we remove them.

In particular, 5.1 is quite ... odd.  IMO, one of the very key aspects of
our job is to rigidly define terms (what is a web service?  what does
authentication of web services mean?  etc.) that provide a standardized
language for talking about web services.  This is embodied in the glossary.
So ironically, we need to create specialized jargon so that we can clearly
talk about our problem area.  A new area of reasoning requires a new
language, which equals specialized jargon.

Cheers,
Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Christopher B Ferris
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:37 PM
> To: Champion, Mike
> Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org; www-ws-arch-request@w3.org
> Subject: Re: D-AC005 CSFs
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> Although I fail to see the need for the last sentence of the CSF:
> "At this stage all this goal requirements are imperative."
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> If it is preserved, I would hope that it is edited slightly to remove
> gramatical
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> Cheers,
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> Christopher Ferris
> Architect, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
> email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
> phone: +1 508 234 3624
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> I had an unfufilled action item to champion the resolution of these:
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> The reference architecture should be easily understandable by
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> audience. At this stage all this goal requirements are imperative. "
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> The straw poll was 13/1/1/0  I think I was the "D" vote.    The other
> comment was to the effect that "target audience" is not
> defined.  Let's
> accept it as worded and move on.
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> "D-AC005.1 it avoids specialized jargon not familiar to
> ordinary software
> designers"
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> "D-AC005.14 the architecture can be implemented without large
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> D-AC005.15 it allows simple invocations as well as
> elaborations with more
> functionality when building Web Services or applications that
> employ web
> services"
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> I [not wearing the Chair hat of course] suggest removing them.  We've
> covered the Simplicity goal adequately in the other CSFs.
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