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RE: [RTF] AC019 proposal to WSA WG

From: Damodaran, Suresh <Suresh_Damodaran@stercomm.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:07:04 -0500
Message-ID: <40AC2C8FB855D411AE0200D0B7458B2B07C59834@scidalmsg01.csg.stercomm.com>
To: "'Mark Baker'" <distobj@acm.org>
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org

19.1.3 specifically addresses "reliable messaging" and messaging is (well)
defined in the glossary [1] as below.

The basic unit of communication between a Web service and a Client: data to
be communicated to or from a Web service as a single logical transmission.

Therefore, I do not see how changing "reliable messaging" to "reliable
improves the clarity. 

Besides, "reliable computing" includes defining semantics of what is
"reliable" computing. 
Refer to "behavior equivalence definition" thread discussions. 


Sterling Commerce   
[1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/arch/2/06/wd-wsa-gloss-20020605.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:51 PM
To: Damodaran, Suresh
Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: Re: [RTF] AC019 proposal to WSA WG

Oops, sorry for the delay.  I didn't realize the RTF had creeped into
reliability of Web services, an interest of mine.

I understand how difficult the wording is in this space, so I won't
nitpick (though I agree with pretty much all of Mike's comments).  So I
can live with all of these except this one;

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 04:23:55PM -0500, Damodaran, Suresh wrote:
> D-AR019.1.3 Web Services Architecture will incorporate support for
> messaging.

My concern about this, is that it's prescribing a solution.  There are
a handful of ways in which reliability can be achieved at runtime, and
reliable messaging is just one (and IMO, a poor one on the Internet).

I would prefer we say something like;

... will incorporate support for reliable computing

I tried to think of something more specific, but it's hard to get
specific before we know what the architecture looks like.

Mark Baker, CTO, Idokorro Mobile (formerly Planetfred)
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.               distobj@acm.org
http://www.markbaker.ca        http://www.idokorro.com
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