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RE: Strawman list of goals for WSAWG

From: Srinivas Pandrangi <srinivas@ipedo.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:01:43 -0800
Message-ID: <EFBAE6044AC0CD41981E01582A1E94AB06027C@alibaba.ingine.com>
To: "Vinoski, Stephen" <steve.vinoski@iona.com>, "Austin, Daniel" <Austin.D@ic.grainger.com>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Cc: "Carroll, Tom" <Carroll.T@ic.grainger.com>
WS Architecture fans,
 While I agree with Steve's contention that simplicity is not a
measurable goal, I do think that should not be a litmus test for a goal.
I think these goals, apart from being ultimate requirements that output
from the WG must satisfy, should also serve as reference points while we
deliberate on different approaches to architectural issues. One approach
might be to rephrase these immeasurable/intangible goals like
simplicity, extensibility as guidelines to be followed in design, not as
goals in themselves.


-----Original Message-----
From: Vinoski, Stephen [mailto:steve.vinoski@iona.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Austin, Daniel; www-ws-arch@w3.org
Cc: Carroll, Tom
Subject: RE: Strawman list of goals for WSAWG

One of the goals (AG005) mentions simplicity and ease of use, but I
don't believe those are necessarily architectural qualities but instead
are implementation qualities. I have seen complicated architectures
implemented in simple and easy-to-use products, and I have seen simple
architectures implemented in cumbersome and hard-to-use products. Have
AG005 as an architectural goal is also impossible to measure. I suggest
we eliminate it.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Austin, Daniel [mailto:Austin.D@ic.grainger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:02 PM
> To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Cc: Carroll, Tom
> Subject: Strawman list of goals for WSAWG
> Gentlebeings,
>      By way of clarifying the existing issues list, I've 
> tried below to
> create a list of overall goals and number them. Basically 
> this is the same
> list as I wrote earlier, but I've tried to be more concise 
> with the language
> and break compound statements down into individual parts. 
> (There are couple
> of additions.) As before, this list is my own proposal and is 
> subject to
> revision according to the sense of the group.
> Proposed Goals for the Web Services Architecture Working Group
> To develop a standard reference architecture for web services that:
> AG001 ensures the interoperability of web services software 
> products from
> different implementors based on well-defined standards
> AG002 provides modularity of web services components, 
> allowing for a level
> of granularity sufficient to meet business goals
> AG003 is sufficiently extensible to allow for future 
> evolution of technology
> and of business goals
> AG004 ensures platform independence of web services 
> components in a way that
> does not preclude any programming model nor assume any 
> particular mode of
> communication between the individual components
> AG005 provides simplicity and ease-of-use that does not 
> impose high barriers
> to entry for users of web services
> AG006 addresses the security of web services across 
> distributed domains and
> platforms
> AG007 is reliable, and stable, and whose evolution is 
> predictable over time
> AG008 is coherent and consistent in its definition 
> AG009 is aligned with the semantic web initiative at W3C and 
> the overall
> existing web architecture
> AG010 uses XML technologies in the development of the web services
> architecture to the extent that this is compatible with the 
> overall goals of
> the group
> AG011 is consistent with the existing web and its 
> heterogenous environment
> and distributed architecture to the greatest extent possible.
> In addition, the Working Group will also act to:
> AG012 evangelize and promote the benefits of web services to potential
> users, both consumers and producers
> AG013 co-ordinate the development of web services within W3C, 
> together with
> other W3C Working Groups where there is overlap among their 
> problem domains
> AG014 serve as liaison with groups outside W3C who are working on web
> services in order to achive interoperability and reduce duplication of
> effort
> Comments, corrections, feedback, and flames to the mailing 
> list please! :)
> Regards,
> D-
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