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RE: Strawman list of goals for WSAWG

From: Yin Leng Husband <Yin-Leng.Husband@compaq.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:49:53 +1000
Message-ID: <E74B412A1B5FD211AD6C0000F87C38ADE66475@ozyexc1.itg.qvar.cpqcorp.net>
To: "Vinoski, Stephen" <steve.vinoski@iona.com>, www-ws-arch@w3.org

Maybe the issue is in the wording of AG005 that the architecture has
to provide simplicity and ease of use.  One possible re-wording is
"The architecture has to be simple (for easy extensibility) and easy to

Obviously however well this goal is achieved, we cannot prevent your example
>simple architectures implemented in cumbersome and hard-to-use products

Yin Leng 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vinoski, Stephen [mailto:steve.vinoski@iona.com] 
Sent: Friday, 15 February 2002 8:03 AM
To: Austin, Daniel; www-ws-arch@w3.org
Cc: Carroll, Tom
Subject: RE: Strawman list of goals for WSAWG

One of the goals (AG005) mentions simplicity and ease of use, but I
don't believe those are necessarily architectural qualities but instead
are implementation qualities. I have seen complicated architectures
implemented in simple and easy-to-use products, and I have seen simple
architectures implemented in cumbersome and hard-to-use products. Have
AG005 as an architectural goal is also impossible to measure. I suggest
we eliminate it.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Austin, Daniel [mailto:Austin.D@ic.grainger.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 12:02 PM
> To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Cc: Carroll, Tom
> Subject: Strawman list of goals for WSAWG
> Gentlebeings,
>      By way of clarifying the existing issues list, I've 
> tried below to
> create a list of overall goals and number them. Basically 
> this is the same
> list as I wrote earlier, but I've tried to be more concise 
> with the language
> and break compound statements down into individual parts. 
> (There are couple
> of additions.) As before, this list is my own proposal and is 
> subject to
> revision according to the sense of the group.
> Proposed Goals for the Web Services Architecture Working Group
> To develop a standard reference architecture for web services that:
> AG001 ensures the interoperability of web services software 
> products from
> different implementors based on well-defined standards
> AG002 provides modularity of web services components, 
> allowing for a level
> of granularity sufficient to meet business goals
> AG003 is sufficiently extensible to allow for future 
> evolution of technology
> and of business goals
> AG004 ensures platform independence of web services 
> components in a way that
> does not preclude any programming model nor assume any 
> particular mode of
> communication between the individual components
> AG005 provides simplicity and ease-of-use that does not 
> impose high barriers
> to entry for users of web services
> AG006 addresses the security of web services across 
> distributed domains and
> platforms
> AG007 is reliable, and stable, and whose evolution is 
> predictable over time
> AG008 is coherent and consistent in its definition 
> AG009 is aligned with the semantic web initiative at W3C and 
> the overall
> existing web architecture
> AG010 uses XML technologies in the development of the web services
> architecture to the extent that this is compatible with the 
> overall goals of
> the group
> AG011 is consistent with the existing web and its 
> heterogenous environment
> and distributed architecture to the greatest extent possible.
> In addition, the Working Group will also act to:
> AG012 evangelize and promote the benefits of web services to potential
> users, both consumers and producers
> AG013 co-ordinate the development of web services within W3C, 
> together with
> other W3C Working Groups where there is overlap among their 
> problem domains
> AG014 serve as liaison with groups outside W3C who are working on web
> services in order to achive interoperability and reduce duplication of
> effort
> Comments, corrections, feedback, and flames to the mailing 
> list please! :)
> Regards,
> D-
> **************************************************************
> *********
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