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RE: OWL translations: French, Japanese, Korean... wow!

From: Jose Manuel Alonso <jalonso@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 10:04:07 +0200
To: "'Ivan Herman'" <ivan@w3.org>, "Dan Connolly" <connolly@w3.org>
Cc: "Pat Hayes" <phayes@ihmc.us>, "Charles McCathieNevile" <charles@w3.org>, <www-webont-wg@w3.org>, "Carlos Iglesias" <carlos.iglesias@fundacionctic.org>
Message-ID: <XANAAaTzvb5YI9IJsaJ00006187@xana.fundacionctic.org>

Err...
We should start implementing it soon but, hey guys, you know much more than
we do about all this RDF stuff, so any ideas are welcome. What to use, how
to do it... whatever! We've just started using RDF stuff recently and we
feel the force ;-)

Anyway, I think Ivan explained the current process clearly, and he save us
all a lot of time maintaining those files there.

We do plan on querying the RDF files once a day so we could update all our
files referencing translated TRs to new URIs if they exist and be notified
about it. Right now we keep an eye open on the w3c-translators mailing list
and the new way should be a big step ahead.

Best,
Jose.

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Jose Manuel Alonso
W3C Spanish Office
Parque Cientifico-Tecnologico de Gijon
33203 - Gijon, Asturias, Spain
tels.: +34 984390616; +34 984291212; fax: +34 984390612
email: jalonso@w3.org
URL: http://www.w3c-es.org


> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Ivan Herman [mailto:ivan@w3.org] 
> Enviado el: sábado, 08 de mayo de 2004 10:28
> Para: Dan Connolly
> CC: Pat Hayes; Charles McCathieNevile; www-webont-wg@w3.org; 
> Jose Manuel Alonso
> Asunto: Re: OWL translations: French, Japanese, Korean... wow!
> 
> To reinforce what Dan says: translation *intent* as well as 
> announcement of publishable translations are to be announced 
> on the translation mailing list of
> W3C: w3c-translators@w3.org. Once an announcement is made, it 
> is my job to make some basic tests and to put it into the rdf 
> files that drive http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Translation/.
> 
> Indeed, I do not do any notification at this moment. However, 
> the Spanish office is thinking of implementing a local, 
> automatic mechanism on their site that could also monitor the 
> changes; details are still in discussion. I would let them do 
> this rather than duplicate the work. I have copied this mail 
> to Jose, the local manager.
> 
> Ivan
> 
> Dan: you can get to an RDF/XML portion on OWL translations by:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/byTechnology?technology
> =owl&output=RDF
> 
> No need for extra query. Of course, it is geeky to do it;-)
> 
> 
> Ivan
> 
> Dan Connolly wrote  on 08/05/2004 00:53:
> 
> > On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 16:16, Pat Hayes wrote:
> > [...]
> > 
> >>Indeed. And if anyone ever hears of a Spanish version, 
> please let us 
> >>know about it ASAP.
> > 
> > 
> > That should be straightforward to arrange: the W3C 
> copyright license 
> > requires translators to let us know when they publish a translation.
> > http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/IPR-FAQ-20000620#translate
> > 
> > Charles, are you aware of any efforts to translate OWL to spanish?
> > 
> > Hmm... how to arrange notification when a spanish translation of an 
> > OWL document comes along?
> > 
> > The data are all available as RDF; details:
> >   http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/Overview.html
> > 
> > I played around a bit and composed this query:
> > 
> > [[[
> > 
> > :target :language "es"; :docGroup "OWL".
> > 
> > {
> >   :target :language ?LANG; :docGroup ?STITLE.
> > 
> >   ?DOC trans:translationFrom ?ORIG;
> >    dc:title ?TITLE;
> >    dc:language ?LANG.
> > 
> >    ?P a rdfs:ContainerMembershipProperty.
> >   ?GRP recs:shortTitle ?STITLE;
> >     recs:groupMembers [ ?P ?SERIES ].
> > 
> >   ?ORIG doc:versionOf ?SERIES.
> > }
> >  => {
> >    ?DOC dc:language ?LANG;
> >      trans:translationFrom ?ORIG
> > }.
> > 
> > ]]] -- excerpted from
> >   http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/util/findTrans.n3
> > 
> > 
> > It works for "fr" and (correctly) produces no results for "es".
> > 
> > You can use that to poll for spanish OWL translations.
> > 
> > Kind of a nifty RDF Data Access use case, perhaps.
> > Perhaps I'll forward it.
> > 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Ivan Herman
> W3C Head of Offices
> C/o W3C Benelux Office at CWI, Kruislaan 413 1098SJ 
> Amsterdam, The Netherlands
> tel: +31-20-5924163; mobile: +31-641044153;
> URL: http://www.w3.org/People/all?pictures=yes#ivan
> 
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