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RE: wine examples

From: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:34:04 +0100
To: "Guus Schreiber" <schreiber@cs.vu.nl>, "WebOnt WG" <www-webont-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <GOEIKOOAMJONEFCANOKCEEIICJAA.bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>


Guus

You need a French guy here maybe :)

> [[
>    <owl:Class rdf:ID="TableWine">
>      <owl:intersectionOf rdf:parseType="Collection">
>        <owl:Class rdf:about="#Wine" />
>        <owl:Restriction>
>          <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="#hasSugar" />
>          <owl:hasValue rdf:resource="#Dry" />
>        </owl:Restriction>
>      </owl:intersectionOf>
>    </owl:Class>
> ]]
>
> Surely, this axiom (dry wine <=> table wine) cannot be correct.
> I'm not aware of any complete definition of the term "table wine", by
> the way. It is usually a rather vague concept (e.g any
> nonclassified wine).

Agreed. "TableWine" is for me, at least if it matches the French "vin de
table" a cheap, generally red, wine you put on the table at every meal when
you are addicted, meaning you prefer bad wine than none at all. Wine
amateurs *never* drink that stuff, unless for social reasons (being invited
and not wanting to be rude). And yes, this axiom is a very approximate
equivalence, in the sense that you generally won't serve sweet wines with
meals. In any case I would have put "subClassOf" here instead of
intersectionOf.

> Also,
>
> [[
>    <owl:Class rdf:ID="Tours">
>      <owl:intersectionOf rdf:parseType="Collection">
>        <owl:Class rdf:about="#Loire" />
>        <owl:Restriction>
>          <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="#locatedIn" />
>          <owl:hasValue rdf:resource="#ToursRegion" />
>        </owl:Restriction>
>      </owl:intersectionOf>
>    </owl:Class>
> ]]
>
> I'm quite sure there is no such wine name in France. As far as I know,
> it's called a "Touraine" (an expert should probably confirm this).

Confirmed - although I'm not exactly an expert, but I happen to know that
wine. Touraine is a charming "petit vin de Loire", slightly fruity red
wine, to be drunk young (like Beaujolais) and a bit cool (below room
temperature, but not chilled).

Cheers

Bernard
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