- From: Guus Schreiber <schreiber@cs.vu.nl>
- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:59:38 +0100
- To: "Smith, Michael K" <michael.smith@eds.com>
- Cc: webont <www-webont-wg@w3.org>
Small correction, see summary of continued actions below. Guus Smith, Michael K wrote: > MINUTES: Teleconference Web Ontology Working Group > Oct 30, 2003, 1200 (East US), 0900 (West US). 1700 (London) > Revised 1 Nov 2003. > > IRC Chat: irc:irc.w3.org (port 6665), #webont > > Chair: Schreiber > Scribe: Mike Smith > > 1.0 Admin > > Role Call > > Present: Dan Connolly, Guus Schreiber, Deb McGuinness, Charles White, > Ian Horrocks, Jeremy Carroll, Evan Wallace, Mike Smith, Shawn Bechhofer, > Mike Dean, Chris Welty, Herman ter Horst, Sandro Hawke. > > Regrets: Hendler, Sabbouh, Heflin, DeRoo > > Next Call > November 13 2003 > Chair: Hendler > Scribe: TBD > > Approve as minutes of Oct 9 meeting > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0113.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0113.html> > ACCEPTED > > > 2.0 Approvals and Action Item Summary. > > APPROVED > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Approve tests cases as described in > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0157.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0157.html> > Note that Thing-001 is not part of this proposal. > APPROVED by consensus > > B.2 Datatype triple proposal in > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0153.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0153.html> > APPROVED by consensus. > > B.1 URIs as annotations. > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0153.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0153.html> > URI's used as object of annotation property do not need to be typed. > APPROVED by consensus. > > 4.2 Proposed change to OWL DL Semantics (Ian) > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0167.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0167.html> > Thing must be non-empty. > APPROVED by consensus. Jeremy Carroll abstained. > > RDF Concepts document. Reviewed by Jim Hendler. > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0172.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0172.html> > Proposal to submit to RDF > APPROVED by consensus > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > DONE: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ACTION Jim: review LC2 RDF Concepts > ACTION MikeD: see whether DAML can provide some support for OWL > outreach DAML PI meeting discussed open source sem web site > focused on tools. Ontology library as part? > ACTION jjc: update test spec with approvals > ACTION IanH: to write up proposal/rationale for change in > semantics of ontology consistency > ACTION jjc: Update tests Ontology-002, Ontology-003 > ACTION DanC: ask Evan Wallace to participate in WebOnt review of QA OPS > guidelines > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Sep/0216.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Sep/0216.html> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > CONTINUED: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ACTION DanC: turn Ian's reviews into test cases > ACTION Guus: review LC2 RDF schema when it comes > ACTION Herman: to review RDF semantics doc > ACTION jimH: ask mindswap for review of Sean's doc > ACTION guus: ask peter for review of Shawn B. document. > ACTION jjc: review sean's document > ACTION Guus: see whether ontoweb can provide some support for OWL outreach > ACTION ChrisW: to write up draft of working group position on OMG > ontology metamodel definition in general and on OKBC in particular > ACTION Guus: to comment on naturalness of mapping from OWL to UML > ACTION Jos: make additional query-style tests > ACTION JimH: to reply to comment on allDisjoint > ACTION Sandro: Report reasoning status re useful subsets of OWLFull > ACTION Jeremy: to talk to Jena team about Full subset implementations > ACTION Jim: to talk to Pellet team about Full subset implementations > ACTION DanC: arrange for redirect (of old versions of Guide) > ACTION Guus: to send reply to Brickley's owl:Class/rdfs:Class comment > ACTION Jeremy: to add a new test that highlights one of the issues in > message > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0001 > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0001> Add (see item 7 below): ACTION Evan W. and Jeremy C. Do review per Jeremy's msg (Sep 0126). Expect completion by Nov 27. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > NEW: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ACTION Jeremy C: will update test doc accordingly. > ACTION Jeremy C: to send email re precise change to S&AS. > ACTION Ian H: Modify S&AS re B.2, Datatype triples. > ACTION Mike Smith: Update Issue 5.26. > ACTION Jeremy C: Change Annotation-Proprety-003. > ACTION Ian H: Modify S&AS (section 3 and 5), Thing non-empty. > ACTION Jeremy C: Clone Test Thing-001. > ACTION Guus to complete review of RDF Schema and send post Mike D. review > ACTION Mike Dean to check review of RDF Schema. > ACTION Guus S. Put coordination of RDF/OWL publication citations on agenda > of semantic web coordination group. > ACTION Sean to format his document according to W3C. > ACTION Guus - Initiate discussion of what we expect of an ontology > library/directory at a W3C site. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > 3. TEST CASES > > Approv tests cases - > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0157.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0157.html> > Note that Thing-001 is not part of this proposal. > Resolved by consensus > > NEW ACTION Jeremy will update test doc accordingly. > > > 4. SEMANTICS ISSUES > > 4.1 the resolution to untyped URIs (Jeremy) > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0153.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0153.html> > > Peter and Jeremy agree re user defined URI and typed literal (see test > I5.8-016). Test reports mixed. > > B.2 datatypes in message 0153 - Datatype triples > Proposal in message 0153 > APPROVED by consensus. > > NEW ACTION Jeremy C. to send email re precise change to S&AS. > NEW ACTION Ian H. Modify S&AS. > > B.1 in message 0153 - URIs as annotations. Should be easy, should not > have to type object. (I.e. less restrictive than Issue 5.26). Test > case Annotation-Property-003 (should be Lite). > URI's used as object of annotation property to not need to be typed. > APPROVED by consensus. > > NEW ACTION Mike Smith. Update Issue 5.26. > NEW ACTION Jeremy C. Change Annotation-Proprety-003. > > 4.2 Proposed change to OWL DL Semantics (Ian) > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0167.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0167.html> > > Require that the extension of Thing be non-empty. Lines up much > better with standard usage (FOL and DL). > > Proposal of 0167 > APPROVED by consensus. Jeremy Carroll. abstain. > > NEW ACTION Ian H. Modify S&AS (section 3 and 5). > NEW ACTION Jeremy C. Clone Test Thing-001. > > > 5. RDF CORE REVIEW > > RDF Semantics Doc. review by ter Horst partially complete. > Will be complete by next week. > > RDF Concepts document. Reviewed by Jim Hendler. > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0172.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Oct/0172.html> > > Proposal to submit. > APPROVED by consensus > > RDF Schema review. > NEW ACTION Guus to complete review and send post Mike D. review > NEW ACTION Mike Dean to check review. > > Discussion. > > Dan C. How do we update RDF citatations in editors documents? > Consensus seems to be to publish 2-7 days after RDF, with a > simultaneous announcement. Be prepared to update to the RDF last call > documents. > > NEW ACTION Guus S. Put on agenda of semantic web coordination group. > > 6. WG Technical report > Sean's Document > > NEW ACTION Sean to format according to W3C. > > Expect approval of publicaton at Nov 27 meeting. > With publication expected after moratoriam, Nov 30. > > 7. QA review > > QA Group asked for review of their documents (Operational Guidelines) > with emphasis on their checklists re working groups document > production. See Jeremy's msg of 9/12. > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Sep/0126.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Sep/0126.html> > > ACTION Evan W. and Jeremy C. Do review per Jeremy's msg. > Continued. Expect completion by Nov 27. > > This was based on the action below, from the Sep 18 minutes. > > ACTION DanC: ask Evan Wallace to participate in WebOnt review of QA OPS > guidelines > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Sep/0216.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Sep/0216.html> > Done > > > > 8. Outreach > > Guus S. - Organized meeting at ISWC lunch. Everyone mentioned OWL. > ISWC had more people than expected (450). > > Semantic Web Challenge. 10 submissions. Light weight ontologies, with > large vocabularies. FrameNet (WordNet related) -> OWL. > > DanC - Notes from the BOF Guus organized at ISWC > http://rdfig.xmlhack.com/2003/10/21/2003-10-21.html#1066757340.001521 > <http://rdfig.xmlhack.com/2003/10/21/2003-10-21.html#1066757340.001521> > > <DanCon> http://esw.w3.org/topic/PartWhole > <http://esw.w3.org/topic/PartWhole> > > > > > Semantic Web Coord. Group - asked Guus for proposal for new WG on Sem. > Web Best Practices. > > NEW ACTION Guus - Initiate discussion of what we expect of an ontology > library/directory at a W3C site. > > Chris W. - Begun part whole ontology Wiki. Will send pointer to WG. > See http://esw.w3.org/topic/PartWhole <http://esw.w3.org/topic/PartWhole> > > Ontoweb Special interest group. Organized by Frank VanH. > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ehorrocks/OntoWeb/SIG/node10.html > <http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ehorrocks/OntoWeb/SIG/node10.html> > > Mike D. - DAML PI - Mark Greaves. Plans an updated web site with > focus on open source tools. 'OWL Forge'. Timeline - up by beginning > of 2004. Persistence to be determined. (Sandro - W3C talking to Mark > Greaves re coordination.) > > > 9. AOB > -- Free University Amsterdam, Computer Science De Boelelaan 1081a, 1081 HV Amsterdam, The Netherlands Tel: +31 20 444 7739/7718 E-mail: schreiber@cs.vu.nl Home page: http://www.cs.vu.nl/~guus/
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