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From: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:35:38 -0400
Message-Id: <p05200f14bb14c55697b6@[10.0.1.2]>
To: Ian Horrocks <horrocks@cs.man.ac.uk>
Cc: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>, jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com, www-webont-wg@w3.org

Chair hat on:

Hendler, please take this discussion to rdf-logic as it doesn't 
impact WG issues that are open and has long ceased to be directly 
related to our response to Ms. Golbeck.

Chair hat off:

Ian, my response to the below can be found on www-rdf-logic.


At 2:11 PM +0100 6/17/03, Ian Horrocks wrote:
>On June 17, Jim Hendler writes:
>>
>>
>>  >
>>  >>  In certain contexts, I think OWL would be useful with some ontologies
>>  >>  preimported.
>>  >
>>  >Well, this would not be OWL.
>>
>>  With due respect Peter, this must either be the dumbest thing I ever
>>  heard you say or, more likely, we're somehow not understanding each
>>  other.  Most of our tools enable the user to start with ontologies
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>
>What you describe here are OWL tools, not the OWL language.
>
>If I were Dan, what I would do is produce a <<tool>> that checked on
>the usage of namespaces in an OWL ontology and automatically added
>the import statements that I wanted. This would allow my applications
>to work the way I wanted using reasoning that would still be sound
>w.r.t. the OWL language spec.
>
>Regards, Ian
>
>







>
>
>>  pre-imported -- for example we are building a cancer research project
>>  that starts from the NCI OWL Lite ontology.  It comes preloaded.  If,
>>  on the other hand, we started from having the user hit a button and
>>  import that ontology, it would not come preloaded.  I cannot see how
>>  this would make any difference to whether something is OWL or not.
>>
>>  My suspicion is there is some deeper issue which you are responding
>>  to. If we're just arguing about how the term "is OWL" is used, then
>>  it isn't worth much time, because the use of our vocabulary is out of
>>  our control once we publish it.
>>
>>    -JH
>>
>>  --
>>  Professor James Hendler				  hendler@cs.umd.edu
>>  Director, Semantic Web and Agent Technologies	  301-405-2696
>>  Maryland Information and Network Dynamics Lab.	  301-405-6707 (Fax)
>>  Univ of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742	  *** 240-277-3388 (Cell)
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Professor James Hendler				  hendler@cs.umd.edu
Director, Semantic Web and Agent Technologies	  301-405-2696
Maryland Information and Network Dynamics Lab.	  301-405-6707 (Fax)
Univ of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742	  *** 240-277-3388 (Cell)
http://www.cs.umd.edu/users/hendler      *** NOTE CHANGED CELL NUMBER ***
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