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Re: Proposed response to Golbeck regarding imports issue

From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:57:41 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <20030616.235741.46629825.pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
To: connolly@w3.org
Cc: schreiber@cs.vu.nl, www-webont-wg@w3.org

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Proposed response to Golbeck regarding imports issue
Date: 16 Jun 2003 12:42:24 -0500

> On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 12:16, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
> > From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
> > Subject: Re: Proposed response to Golbeck regarding imports issue
> > Date: 16 Jun 2003 12:05:35 -0500
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 10:08, Guus Schreiber wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > >  > "Note that the importing a document is different than creating a
> > > >  > namespace reference. owl:imports do not set up a shorthand notation for
> > > >  > names as does a namespace reference. On the other hand, the namespace
> > > >  > reference does not imply that all (or even any) ontological terms from
> > > >  > that namespace are being imported.
> > > 
> > > Oops! I must have missed that earlier.
> > > 
> > > Yes, namespace declarations do imply that ontological terms
> > > are being imported! At least in the tools that I build, they
> > > do. I don't mind if the WG doesn't endorse that position, but
> > > I do mind if the WG specifies that it's not so.
> > > 
> > > Please strike that text.
> > 
> > I strongly disagree.
> 
> I accept that as your opinion, but...

But what?  

> > It is definitely the case in OWL that ``the namespace reference does not
> > imply that all (or even any) ontological terms from that namespace are
> > being imported.''  You may write whatever tools you want, but this does not
> > change the fact that OWL namespace references do not imply any importing.
> 
> Fact? I see no justification that this is a fact.
> Please provide some.

How about providing some justification that the implication is permissable?

> > In my opinion the removal of that text will leave a mistaken impression.
> > 
> > > > > Therefore, it is common to have a
> > > >  > corresponding namespace declaration for any ontology that is
> > > >  > imported."
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
> > 
> > peter
> -- 
> Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/

peter
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