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Re: AS&S and WG consensus

From: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:41:55 -0500
Message-Id: <p05200f17ba55adead20d@[]>
To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>, jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com
Cc: www-webont-wg@w3.org

At 9:08 -0500 1/23/03, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
>From: "Jeremy Carroll" <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
>Subject: AS&S and WG consensus (was Re: abstract syntax and RDFS)
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:17:11 +0100
>>  Peter:
>>  > I disagree.  I'm very happy that rdf:XMLLiteral is not in OWL Lite or OWL
>>  > DL.
>>  Peter:
>>  > I think that rdfs:seeAlso and
>>  > rdfs:isDefinedBy have no place in OWL Lite or OWL DL.
>>  I am increasingly concerned at the divergence between the OWL described in
>>  AS&S and the OWL created by due WG process.
>>  My understanding is that:
>>    OWL is DAML+OIL as modified by WG resolution in our issue driven consensus
>>  process.
>OK.  I should not have modified the mapping rules, and have now taken
>rdfs:comment and rdfs:label out.  If you want any of them in, please raise
>an issue.

I am confused, does this mean you are eliminating these or including 
them in OWL Lite/DL?

If the former, then I think you are going against Charter and I'll be 
forced to step in.  Essentially, unless I am misunderstanding (which 
is possible), these features were allowed under DAML+OIL - and 
they were used heavily in many of the ontologies created under DAML. 
Thus, removing them is NOT at editor's discretion since that would be 
a modification to D+O without consensus of the WG.

If I am wrong, please explain -- I think Jeremy wins on this process 
question unless I misunderstand.

Jeremy, if Peter is right, then I suggest you do indeed raise the 
issue.  Dropping these four constructs would be a major change and as 
chair I'm willing to accept and open this issue, holding up release 
of AS&S as LC until it is resolved.  (note: that other documents can 
move to LC while we fix AS&S)


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