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Re: AW: AW: Lexical representations

From: Ian Horrocks <horrocks@cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:35:46 +0000
Message-ID: <15483.36658.675895.95943@cs.man.ac.uk>
To: <volz@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Cc: "Webont" <www-webont-wg@w3.org>
Well in that case I see your requirement as part of the general
"tagging" one, and not related to the issue of providing multi-lingual
display of object labels (although I suppose we could choose to
consider "displayable labels" to be a special case of the tagging
requirement).

Ian

On February 26, Raphael Volz writes:
> Hi,
> 
> the point is not to "apply some form of NL" to such labels, but
> to have a means to categorize labels to meet certain application
> requirements, one example is to be able to tag concepts with word stems,
> as this is required if you want to classify documents according to
> a set of concepts.
> 
> This would also be a requirement if any lexical resource such as WordNet
> ought to be represented in OWL, there concepts correspond to synsets which
> are referenced by several words (which are synonym to each other).
> 
> Thus, I'ld want to leave this flexibility in the language.
> 
> Raphael
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Ian Horrocks [mailto:horrocks@cs.man.ac.uk]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Februar 2002 13:33
> An: volz@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de
> Cc: Jeremy Carroll; Webont
> Betreff: Re: AW: Lexical representations
> 
> 
> I liked the revised text. The use made of labels by Applications such
> as the one Raphael describes may try to apply some form of NL
> understanding to such labels, but that is beyond the scope of OWL. If
> calling such labels "lexical representations" suggests that such a
> usage is intended, then that is another reason for changing to
> "displayable labels". In any case, being able to determine the
> language of the label can only help to improve this kind of analysis
> can't it? - the way things are now you might be applying an English
> based analysis to French labels.
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> On February 25, Raphael Volz writes:
> > I'm opposed to changing the text from lexical representations to user
> > displayable texts.
> > Many of our applications indeed rely heavily on lexical representations.
> > E.g. we use word stems to provide references from documents to ontological
> > entities in our
> > conceptual search application. Word stems are lexical representations for
> > ontological
> > entities but not intended for user display at all. Some subset of lexical
> > representations
> > that is labels / documentations are intended for human consumption.
> >
> > Raphael
> >
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: www-webont-wg-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:www-webont-wg-request@w3.org]Im Auftrag von Jeremy Carroll
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Februar 2002 10:54
> > An: Peter F. Patel-Schneider
> > Cc: www-webont-wg
> > Betreff: RE: Lexical representations
> >
> >
> > > Unfortunately, I don't think that this does the trick.  An ontology
> > > identifier is, I think, a URI reference.  At least that is what the
> second
> > > requirement appears to be saying.
> > >
> >
> > Ahh.
> >
> > I think you are saying that the term "ontology identifier" is being used
> for
> > two different things. In the second req. as the identifier for an
> ontology,
> > in this req. as an identifier for some object within the ontology.
> >
> > I didn't feel very comfortable with your "If ..." since that appeared to
> be
> > weakening the requirement to an optional one (although I don't think that
> > was your intent).
> >
> > How about hacking "same ontology identifier" to be "same identifier of an
> > object within an ontology". It's a bit wordy, but I hope it's good enough.
> > i.e. the whole section being:
> >
> >
> > [[[
> > User displayable labels
> > =======================
> > The language must support specifying multiple alternative user displayable
> > labels for the same identifier of an object within an ontology .
> > This can be used, for example, to view the ontology in different natural
> > languages.
> > ]]]
> >
> >
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