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RE: Issue: Add hasValue to OWL Lite

From: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:06:06 -0500
Message-Id: <p05111713ba1e602baebf@[]>
To: "Peter Crowther" <Peter.Crowther@networkinference.com>
Cc: <www-webont-wg@w3.org>

>  subset (which, as I understand it, doesn't include
>  > you).
>Hmm.  Repeated and sustained argument for one point of view from the
>Chair on an issue that will come to a vote.  Whatever happened to
>Chair's impartiality per W3C Process?  Dan - just on the off chance that
>this partiality could be seen as trying to influence the vote, what
>would Network Inference do to make a formal complaint about this abuse
>of Professor Hendler's position as Chair?

  this is a serious accusation, but I will believe it is because you 
missed the import of the message in [1] being new to the group.
  In that message I included what might be to you a cryptic phrase

"<Chair hat off>"

this has become, over the course of the WG, the way I or Guus 
indicate we are not neutral on an issue.  Process (see [2]) states 
that the chair

>"Generally stays neutral in discussion but can participate in 
>technical discussions if announces in advance that will remove his 
>or her chair "hat" at that time"

I apologize that I didn't make that clearer -- over the course of the 
WG Guus and I have established our patterns with respect to when we 
are arguing for a position, and when we are chairing (notice that 
when I called for the vote in [3] I stated I was moving into Chair 
mode - with Guus out of town, I don't have a cochair to call the 
vote).  Also, as you will see on the phone call today, when we 
discuss this issue, I will ask someone else to chair the meeting and 
to call for the vote - again, per the policies in [2] and [4].

By the way, it is quite likely I will lose the vote, if so, I will 
object and we will move on, as I would expect the other side to do if 
they lose the vote -- we've established this pattern, and have used 
it in one other case (imports), where I did indeed lose the vote and 
went on record as objecting.

I have tried hard to comply with process throughout the 14 months the 
WG has been in existance.  I haven't always succeeded, but I've tried 
my hardest.  Again, I apologize to you for being more casual than 
usual, forgetting that there were people in the group that hadn't 
been here the whole time.

  -Jim Hendler

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0105.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/Guide/chair-roles (member only)
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Dec/0146.html
[4] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process-20010719/groups.html#WGVotes
Professor James Hendler				  hendler@cs.umd.edu
Director, Semantic Web and Agent Technologies	  301-405-2696
Maryland Information and Network Dynamics Lab.	  301-405-6707 (Fax)
Univ of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742	  240-731-3822 (Cell)
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