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Re: ADMIN: agenda for August 1 telecon

From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 09:41:24 +0100
Message-ID: <3D48F434.5000406@hpl.hp.com>
To: www-webont-wg@w3.org

 >Jeremy - please identify which archive messages you'd like people to
 >focus on

Likely points of discussion are found in three short messages and the 
last para of a longer one:


http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0150.html

404 in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0305.html

404 & rdfcore/testSchema in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0319.html

See last para in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0282.html


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Following Jim's structure:

 >2) TEST issues (Jeremy)

 >
 >2.1  Setting up a test manifest
 >

In:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0316.html

I proposed files like:

http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/FunctionalProperty/Manifest.rdf

The current version reflects proposals made by:

Jos wanted a different URL for the OWL testOntology

DanC wanted a different URL for the RDF test schema

DanC seems to prefer no 404s and I made a further change to the URIs of 
the tests themselves to reflect that.

I'll send a further message with diffs showing these changes.

 >2.2  Kinds of tests
 >

In
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0101.html

section
4: Test types

I listed
4.1 Entailment test
4.2 Illegal document test.
4.3 Consistency test

as a non-exhaustive list.
Dan expressed doubt about the utility of consistency tests, I suggested 
lazy evaluation on the list of test types.

The most substantive issue raised in the list was about Don't know 
answers and incomplete reasoners ... e.g. see:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/0150.html



Other issues:

Dan has expressed a preference that the only URLs that 404 should be 
ones in the example.* domains.
Contrast the test:
http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/FunctionalProperty/premises001.rdf
http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/FunctionalProperty/conclusions001.rdf
with
http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/InverseFunctionalProperty/premises001.rdf
http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/InverseFunctionalProperty/conclusions001.rdf

The latter uses http URLs that 404, the former doesn't.

Jeremy has expressed a preference for no N3 in the deliverables.

There has been discussion to do with organisation of test repository.
+ What is the role of the test web site?
+ What is the test deliverable?
+ How does that relate to the web site?


 >2.3 actions on people to submit info on systems/tests
 >

ACTION jjc To update test cases and manifest files in:
           FunctionalProperty
           InverseFunctionalProperty
           I4.1
           I3.4
           qualified-cardinality-constraints
        in the light of the discussion/decisions at this telecon.


others I guess ...

Jeremy
Received on Thursday, 1 August 2002 04:52:53 GMT

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