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RE: datatyping is not needed

From: Marcus Jager <mjager@microsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:33:57 -0700
Message-ID: <174A69422993D111A13C00805FFE51B4053CD5@sjc-msg-01.dns.microsoft.com>
To: www-webdav-dasl@w3.org
Hi,

Ummm, Did I miss something or didn't we need the datatypes so the server
knows how to perform the relational operators (ge,le,... ) on the dead
properties.

Marcus.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Babich, Alan [SMTP:ABabich@filenet.com]
> Sent:	Sunday, July 12, 1998 20:32
> To:	Saveen Reddy (Exchange); www-webdav-dasl@w3.org
> Subject:	RE: datatyping is not needed
> 
> Yes, you have stated my position correctly.
> 
> Having the datatypes in the advertisement of
> query capabilities is enough for me.
> Clients can choose to ignore it or use 
> it. (In fact, clients don't even have to perform
> query capability discovery if they don't want to.)
> Having datatypes in the "where" condition as well 
> would be redundant, and I do not propose we
> do that. (I seem to remember that you astutely 
> pointed out the redundancy at the Redmond meeting
> and that I agreed with you.)
> 
> Hopefully we're violently agreeing: Jim says "its
> less filling" (the query condition is not decorated
> with datatypes), and I say "it tastes great" (the 
> datatype information is available in the query
> capability information), and we're both right.
> 
> But I would quibble a little bit with you on your wording of
> my position on the UI issue. I do not claim we have to make 
> the UI EASIER. I claim we have to make QUALITY UI's POSSIBLE. 
> That's a very different thing. You're right, though, we're
> doing a protocol design, not a UI design. A good protocol
> design provides all the necessary information, and it
> is not unnecessarily hard to generate or process. Right?
> Only the ease of generating and processing the protocol
> might make the UI code easier or harder, not the
> information providable via the protocol.
> The UI's potential for quality could only be affected by 
> what information is providable via the protocol, not
> by the ease of generating or processing the protocol.
> 
> Alan Babich
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Saveen Reddy (Exchange) [mailto:saveenr@Exchange.Microsoft.com]
> Sent: July 07, 1998 1:30 PM
> To: www-webdav-dasl@w3.org
> Subject: RE: datatyping is not needed
> 
> 
> 
> I'll respond first to the UI issue. Alan, making UI easier, while a good
> thing, isn't a fundamental scenario we have to address. If dropping
> datatyping meant that it didn't make this easier, I could still sleep at
> night.
> 
> As for the second part ... it doesn't seem like you guys disagree (and
> you even point this out). Jim's position (please Jim clarify if I am
> missing it) is that datatyping is not absolutely needed in the query
> expression. Alan, your position seems to be that datatyping is needed in
> query schema discovery. Do I have this correct?
> 
> Thanks,
> Saveen
Received on Monday, 13 July 1998 14:33:41 GMT

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