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Re: CCXML: comment on ISSUE-737

From: Petr Kuba <kuba@optimsys.cz>
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 11:36:04 +0200
Message-ID: <4C57E304.4070608@optimsys.cz>
To: Chris Davis <davisc@iivip.com>
CC: www-voice@w3.org
Hello Chris,

Have you considered the following email from RJ?

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2010JulSep/0003.html

I believe it gives pretty good guide for this issue.

If I understand the new text from RJ the basic behavior is STRICT but 
no-STRICT optimization is allowed. However, then you should note the 
last sentence:

"Application developers SHOULD NOT depend on this behavior and SHOULD 
instead assume code is executed line by line for maximum portability 
between implementations."

Therefore I reported the problems because I expect that the 
Implementation Report SHOULD also assume code is executed line by line.
Then the tests will pass in both STRICT and no-STRICT modes.

Regards,
Petr

On 2.8.2010 18:15, Chris Davis wrote:
> Hello www-voice,
>
> We suspect that Optimsys' repeated issues of "undeclared vars" keeps occurring
> because they are running their javascript engine in "STRICT" mode.
> Previous issues raised by Optimsys on the same subject are 727, 715 and 709.
>
> We never saw in the spec where "STRICT" is required so we don't run our engine
> configured that way and as a result we pass these tests.
>
> What the spec *does* say is only "Attempting to assign to an undeclared variable causes an
>    |error.semantic", and even then that is listed just for the<assign>  tag. We don't see how
> that demands STRICT, because we assume this is just for the<assign>  tag.
> We check that with a pre-pass and thus pass tests that check such behavior (like #729).
>
> We request that a final ruling be made: STRICT or no-STRICT? The decision should go in
> the recommendation. If STRICT then you could also strike defining some behaviors of STRICT
> such as the text under the<assign>  tag. If the decision is no-STRICT then issues 737,727,715, and 709
> should all be rejected.
>
> We lobby for a no-STRICT decision, as this would allow the most 3rd party javascript to run inside CCXML.
> It has been our observation that many web-browsers(like firefox) run in no-STRICT mode and as a result
> there is a huge amount of no-STRICT code out there.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
> |
>
> --
> Chris Davis
> Interact Incorporated R&D
> 512-502-9969x117
>
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