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RE: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: 3066 or its successor

From: Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:10:01 +0900
Message-Id: <6.0.0.20.2.20061219130455.0be7cec0@localhost>
To: "Richard Ishida" <ishida@w3.org>, "'Richard Ishida'" <ishida@w3.org>, "'Baggia Paolo'" <paolo.baggia@loquendo.com>, <www-voice@w3.org>
Cc: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>

At 21:40 06/12/15, Richard Ishida wrote:
>
>> > R103-20:
>> > Resolution: Accepted
>> > 
>> > - Request to reference: "RFC3066 or its successors"
>> > - Discussion on the right reference.
>> > - [3] includes a version you suggested. 
>> > - If it is fine, please send final acceptance
>> > 
>> > + E-mail Trail
>> > - Original Comment Richard Ishida (2006-03-21)
>> >   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2006JanMar/0079.html
>> > - VBWG official response to last call issue VBWG (2006-05-26)
>> >   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2006AprJun/0085.html
>> > - Comment to VBWG official response Richard Ishida (2006-07-28)
>> >   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2006JulSep/0027.html
>
>
>Instead of:
>===============
>[BCP47]
>    IETF BCP 47, currently represented by Tags for the Identification of
>Languages, A. Phillips, M. Davis, Editors. IETF, September 2006. This RFC is
>available at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt.
>================
>
>Please point to BCP47 using one of the following URIs
>-      ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/bcp/bcp47.txt
>-      http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt

I very much suggest you do not use either of the above, but
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt. This not only means
you don't need to wait for the rfc-editor to make up its
mind about ftp vs. http, but it also means that you clearly
show that this BCP and the RFCs it subsumes is approved
by the IETF, and was produced by an IETF WG.

While technically, the copy at
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt
originates from one of the former localions (most probably
the ftp one), the rfc editor is not much more than a
combination of webmaster and official proofreader when
translated to W3C terms.

Regards,    Martin.

>We are still awaiting a response from the IETF editor as to which of these
>two is preferred. I would think that if you need to choose before we get a
>reply, you should just choose whichever you prefer.
>
>Note that the document pointed to by these URIs is a concatenation of RFC
>4646 and RFC 4647.  If talking about a specific RFC, however, be sure to say
>'or its successor', since we are expecting a successor to appear in a few
>months time.
>
>Cheers,
>RI
>
>============
>Richard Ishida
>Internationalization Lead
>W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>
>http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
>http://www.w3.org/International/
>http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
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> 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-i18n-core-request@w3.org 
>> [mailto:public-i18n-core-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
>> Sent: 28 July 2006 12:40
>> To: 'Baggia Paolo'; www-voice@w3.org
>> Cc: public-i18n-core@w3.org
>> Subject: RE: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: 3066 or its successor
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Paolo,
>> 
>> I think we can substantially improve on the reference in SVG 
>> Mobile by pointing to BCP 47 directly.  The problem is 
>> choosing which of the several direct links is best.
>> 
>> I have sent a note to the person at the IETF who is 
>> shepherding RFC 3066bis, and will let you know his reply.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> RI 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> ============
>> Richard Ishida
>> Internationalization Lead
>> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
>> http://www.w3.org/International/
>> http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> 
>>      From: Baggia Paolo [mailto:paolo.baggia@loquendo.com] 
>>      Sent: 26 May 2006 15:11
>>      To: www-voice@w3.org
>>      Cc: Baggia Paolo; Richard Ishida
>>      Subject: Re: [PLS1.0] i18n comment: 3066 or its successor
>>      
>>      
>>      
>>      Issue R103-20
>>      From Richard Ishida (2006-03-21):
>>      
>>      Proposed Classification: Clarification / Typo / Editorial 
>>      
>>      Resolution: Accept
>>      
>>      We accept you request and we'll make the following changes: 
>>      
>>      * In fourth para, Section 4.1 [1] 
>>      We will replace 'RFC 3066 [RFC3066]' with 'IETF Best 
>> Current Practice
>>      47
>>      [BCP47]'
>>      * In the references in Section 6.1 [2] 
>>      We will add a normative reference to [BCP47] as in [3]
>>      
>>      Is it an acceptable resolution? 
>>      
>>      Please indicate whether you are satisfied with the 
>> VBWG's resolution,
>>      whether you think there has been a misunderstanding, or 
>> whether you wish
>>      to register an objection. 
>>      
>>      
>>      [1]
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/#S4.1 
>>      [2]
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/#S6.1 
>>      [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile12/refs.htm 
>>      
>>      Paolo Baggia, editor PLS spec.
>>      
>>      
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>>      ---
>>      From: 
>>      Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:42:19 +0000
>>      To: www-voice@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org 
>>      Message-Id: <20060321174219.691144EFDE@homer.w3.org> 
>>      
>>      
>>      Comment from the i18n review of:
>>      http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-pronunciation-lexicon-20060131/
>>      
>>      Comment 20
>>      At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0603-pls10/
>>      Editorial/substantive: S
>>      Owner: RI
>>      
>>      Location in reviewed document:
>>      4.1, 4th para
>>      
>>      Comment:
>>      s/RFC 3066/RFC 3066 or its successor/
>>      
>>      
>>      (Note that 'its successor' has already been approved by 
>> the IETF and is
>>      just pending publication.)
>>      
>>      
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