Thank every one for your help.
I would like to be able to build a web site, that will not have a lot of errors in it and or jam up peoples browsers.
I would like to have a cool web site that looks good, But it would seem that if I go to upload programming or host on my own server, that programs like frontpage will not work since I need the web site programming they would sit on.
I of course run into the same problems as every one eilse, so even if i use a program that makes no mistakes to just make pages, then I still can not fix the base code in the hosted web site since it is on some one eilses system [ example office live web sites ]
so now I know you can do really cool stuff in dream weaver, wont that just make pages, and like sea monkey if that makes a entire site, will it accept programming from sources like dream weaver.
So I am looking at either upload and host at a server center or run my own server. but in either case I should start with programs that will not goof up the programming.
but their are so many programs to choose from.
so I'm guessing sea monkey and dream waever must be good then, for members of this forum to give them referal.
Now I did build a server with server 2008 in it from the microsoft confrance I attended, but it is going to be a internal network server
now im being told by members of microsoft, that as a stand alone network server I should firewall it from the internet as follows :
cable modem to the motorola /vonage router / phone adapter then that would go to the server, the server has 6 lan,
lan 1 would go to motorola, the other 5 are the internal net work,
lan 2 would connect to a 24 port switch for the render farm ,
lan 3 would be the belkin pre n wireless router.
lan 4 would be the 5 port hub at the repair center
lan 5 could be a seperate wireless connection example general internet use[ internet cafe ]
lan 6 same as 5 no chosen role.
I have 3 total wireless routers, they all work, but i have found they are funny in that network members can not talk to the different networks. so if i name them network 1 , 2 , and 3 and ever one is in the same work group. then network 1 can not talk to or share files with net work 2, unless its through a 3rd party application.
but is that because the different wireless networks have a different names ?
if i gave them all the same name would they fight ?
so what roles would or should i have the new server do ?
before the new server and the 24 port switch
the 3 wireless routers and hub connected into the main router
will adding the server into the mix also help the lack of communication between wireless networks ?
--- On Tue, 4/29/08, Michael Adams <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
From: Michael Adams <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: universal web site programming. [OT]
Date: Tuesday, April 29, 2008, 4:53 PM
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:58:24 -0400
Rick Merrill wrote:
> Michael Adams wrote:On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:38:37 -0700 (PDT)
> Greg Sabin wrote:
> exactly, if I build a new web site , their must be some kind of
> programming that all browsers can see properly, even if the user has
> to down load plug in's to get full functionality. Since it would make
> sence to use a web site builder and programming that will not ...
> --- On Mon, 4/28/08, Rick Merrill <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> From: Rick Merrill <email@example.com>
> Subject: Re: universal web site programming.
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Date: Monday, April 28, 2008, 3:06 PM
> I think Greg is asking if DreamWeaver or FrontPage or ANY similar
> tools for making web sites such that said web sites are universally
> compatible with all browsers.
> Michael Adams wrote:On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:28:36 -0700 (PDT)
> Greg Sabin wrote:
> Ok, is their any kind of web site programming, that is universal to
> all browsers that may be used on all currently used operating
> Or is their no such thing? but if their is such a thing why not use
> that and just stick with it?
> Not sure what you are asking for here.
> All browsers read (X)HTML, this is not OS dependant. Page data.
> All "modern" browsers read CSS, OS independant. Page Layout.
> switchable. Page programming language.
> "Most" modern browsers allow Flash and Java, OS independant, but
> be downloaded by user. Object programming languages.
> Server side scripting, (ASP, CGI or PHP for instance) is not OS,
> browser or user dependant. Page generating Languages.
> If you were clearer in your request more help could be forthcoming.
> The best answer i can give is, build standards compliant HTML4.01
> Strict code then apply fixes only where needed. The more complex your
> page, the more fixes need applying. Internet Explorer will generally
> require more fixes than all other browsers combined.
> That was not what he ment by "programming" - what he ment was
> *software* or web creation tool. In other words SeaMonkey Composer -
> it should produce valid code all the time.
Why keep answering me not the OP, when you seem to grok his intent?
So the original question was about writing, at best designing web pages,
not programmimg them.
The request is misdirected, as it is OT for this list. Surely
downloading and trying Amaya, or many of the other OSS authoring
apps is the next step. Many in the developer community would say that
Dreamweaver is the best, AFAIK it does the best job of not messing with
I have ended up using a combination of CMS and hand coding on my sites.
And use no authoring software other than a PHP IDE.
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